another Freddy Roach 7 time trainer of the year casualty

[Dudley]

I'm hard pressed to find any kind of acolytes besides, Pacquiao, that would earn him such high praise among his coaching peers.

From a business perspective he's great doing fabulous with guys like Provodnikov who are groomed to be high level sparring partners. I feel bad for him because, boxing is not a tough mans sport, were taking flush shots for 12 rounds is a badge of honor.

But for him actually teaching a boxer how to use the basic fundamentals of defense to offense, setting up varying shots... very lacking.

He teaches every fighter that walks through his doors, to volley of punches up the middle.

Freddy Roach is the walmart of boxing schools, sorely just above the worst trainer of all time Buddy McGirt.

[icebergisonfire]

I'm hard pressed to find any kind of acolytes besides, Pacquiao, that would earn him such high praise among his coaching peers.

From a business perspective he's great doing fabulous with guys like Provodnikov who are groomed to be high level sparring partners. I feel bad for him because, boxing is not a tough mans sport, were taking flush shots for 12 rounds is a badge of honor.

But for him actually teaching a boxer how to use the basic fundamentals of defense to offense, setting up varying shots... very lacking.

He teaches every fighter that walks through his doors, to volley of punches up the middle.

Freddy Roach is the walmart of boxing schools, sorely just above the worst trainer of all time Buddy McGirt.

Of course it is lacking, he probably just has Ruslan standing in front of an NFL jugs machine throwing footballs at 90mph at him, to test his durability and chin since he knows he's going to get hit a lot.

[ShoulderRoll]

Lets see:

No defense, face-first fighter who blocks punches with his chin?

Yep. Ruslan looks like the prototypical Freddie Roach fighter (outside of Pacquiao.)

[jmrf4435]

Propv performs better then roach is there. Prov has a style that is prov's, nothing to do with roach

[freedom213]

I'm hard pressed to find any kind of acolytes besides, Pacquiao, that would earn him such high praise among his coaching peers.

From a business perspective he's great doing fabulous with guys like Provodnikov who are groomed to be high level sparring partners. I feel bad for him because, boxing is not a tough mans sport, were taking flush shots for 12 rounds is a badge of honor.

But for him actually teaching a boxer how to use the basic fundamentals of defense to offense, setting up varying shots... very lacking.

He teaches every fighter that walks through his doors, to volley of punches up the middle.

Freddy Roach is the walmart of boxing schools, sorely just above the worst trainer of all time Buddy McGirt.

Right....mayweather senior had Hatton looking so fantastic too, just improved his basics by light years .... Certain fighters are who they are and live and die off of that. Don't blame Roach for Ruslan's go to war style and attitude. He ain't changing and if he does it won't go well for him. And of course no one was criticizing him that much after the Bradley fight.

[SilverMiles]

Sorry but you're a bum poster. Ruslan has great head movement which is a form of defense. Stop your hating because we all know you wouldn't last 2 rounds against this no defense having bum.

[juandabomb]

roach has always been overrated imo, he's never bred a fighter from the ground up like nacho berstein: lopez,zaragoza,marquez bros

[FerFAL]

Roach knew all along he Provo would lose, that's why he didnt even go to the fight. No class whatsoever from Roach. Stand by your fighter man!

[Dudley]

Right....mayweather senior had Hatton looking so fantastic too, just improved his basics by light years .... Certain fighters are who they are and live and die off of that. Don't blame Roach for Ruslan's go to war style and attitude. He ain't changing and if he does it won't go well for him. And of course no one was criticizing him that much after the Bradley fight.

Roach has worked with allot of fighters who he in one way or another broke. Remember Jorge Linares? The knock on him is he had no power, still doesn't but he can box and move and pitch ever punch in the book. He's a joy to watch. Freddy taught him how to throw more punches and even make him more of an imbalanced fighter. He Left.

Love him or hate him, Look at Amir Khan. He's fast, has a bad chin, pretty good stamina, Freddy Roach taught him to be more of an offensive fighter, neglecting technique for speed which he was caught for. He Left.

Moving to up in weight to Latif Coyote. not a shinning prospect by no means but when i watch him fight Volley's up the middle... It's a rinse repeat style.

He hasn't taught anyone HOW TO BOX. Teddy Atlas love him hate him has a good quote "Anyone can throw punches, but it's the good ones who can avoid them and still be in place to counter off a miss" He's teaching fundamentals of boxing. Look what he worked with, his best fighter was a chinny Michale Moore! As a trainer i would hate to have a guy who is a one touch, but look at what he made him. Now look at Provo, dude has a diamond chin, but cannot fight with a fighter who has a jab, a basic tool equated to a pawns move.

Almost every fighter who has left roaches gym at one point or another has gone on with thier career to do something. I just think his gym, if your a young professional looking to make it in this brutal sport of boxing is a good place to learn. Provo's face with the amount of damage that has occurred will only get worse i figure dude has another, maybe 3 years left.

I'd be looking at What Dan Birmingham teaches, I'd be looking at what Vergil Hunter teaches, I'd be looking at Danny Garcia. Freddy Roach's name was built off of Manny Pacquiao and he keeps trying to form every fighter into his image, when he should try to match what they do well with what they need to work on to round them out.

[Dudley]

roach has always been overrated imo, he's never bred a fighter from the ground up like nacho berstein: lopez,zaragoza,marquez bros

He's only taken one fighter that i know of and made him better and that's Manny Pacquiao.