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  • Weebler I
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    #11
    Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
    Anyways, they both fought like ****. Will not watch again, one star rating.
    It's funny, I actually loved that fight, so tense with any punch potentially causing a k/d or KO. I think I just like watching power punchers.

    Originally posted by daggum
    quillin was clearly standing on his foot. why does boxing not have instant replay review?
    Originally posted by nivek535
    I KNOW RIGHT.. WHY no replay review!!
    and 10 pt must is dumb too like mentioned in the other thread.
    It doesn't work, they had it for Murray-Martinez and still couldn't get it right. Boxing too corrupt.

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    • daggum
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      #12
      Originally posted by Weebler I
      It's funny, I actually loved that fight, so tense with any punch potentially causing a k/d or KO. I think I just like watching power punchers.





      It doesn't work, they had it for Murray-Martinez and still couldn't get it right. Boxing too corrupt.
      oh yeah pillow punching murray dropped martinez twice and got robbed lol. then cotto comes along and drops him 3 times(2 were pushes) and he's the sh-it? funny how people ignore things/hype up things to suit their agenda.

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      • SkillspayBills
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        #13
        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        Ref could have also ruled the KD in round 3 a slip, which would have won Lee the fight.
        Wasn't Lee losing that round? I honestly can't remember but you very well may be right. It was a slip so I have no problem with it being scored 10-9.

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        • GoldenGloveLove
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dr Rumack
          To be fair, some refs might have called a second knockdown at the end of the first. Or even stopped Lee. Quillin got a break with the trip, but I don't think Lee was hard done by overall.

          I can understand that. It's a good point.

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          • ukbox
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            #15
            I thought Lee won the fight

            I wasn't impressed with Quillin, given his hype & weight at the scales.

            AL is improving all the time.
            The fundamentals learned from Manny Steward RIP & the pairing with Booth have worked well for Lee.
            The hunger, grit, heart & determination he's shown has been fantastic & he deserves some big paydays.

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            • STEELHEAD
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              #16
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
              One school of thought is that Andy Lee’s seventh-round knockdown of Peter Quillin this past Saturday provded to be the difference between him losing and the actual result of a split draw.

              But even with that knockdown, there is one other thing that proved to be the difference between a draw and a defeat — how judge Glenn Feldman scored the third round, in which Quillin scored his second knockdown on Lee of the evening.

              Feldman had it 10-9 for Quillin, while judges Guido Cavalleri and Eric Marlinski had it 10-8.

              Cavalleri’s final scorecard was 113-112 for Lee. Marlinski’s final scorecard was 113-112 for Quillin. Feldman was the judge who had it a 113-113 draw. And if Feldman had given a 10-8 score to Quillin for the third instead of a 10-9, he would’ve had Quillin ahead at the end by a score of 113-112, giving Quillin the split decision victory.
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              if judge feldman thought lee was winning the round except for the knock down then he could legitamently score it quillin 10-9.

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              • R_Walken
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                #17
                Quillen should have that fight and if he wasnt hated on this site there would be non stop threads about a judge scoring it 10-9 with a KD. when was the last time that happened

                I could see if Lee lit Quillen up in the third and got a flash KD but that wasn't the case.

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                • KnickTillDeaTh
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  quillin was clearly standing on his foot. why does boxing not have instant replay review?
                  Instant replay wouldnt help in most cases because if a fighter slips but there is a clear punch that landed the ref can determine the punch contributed to the knock down and rule as such. In this case Quillen stepped on Lee but from the refs vantage point it looked as if Quillen landed 2 punches, one to the chin and one to the chest. It was definitely a slip but I do see why the ref ruled it a knock down. Easily the worst commentary I have heard in years, but Sugar Ray was absolutely sure it was legit and he had a better view.

                  So If there was instant replay they would also have to determine whether the landed punch contributed enough to rule it a knock down, then what? you cant stop the fight. In between rounds the judges have to change the score card? and what if that landed punch knock the fighter out similar to Pac vs Marquez, does it no longer count? Its a good Idea but using it for this purpose makes little sense. Instant replay in boxing should be used behind the scenes to accurately report punch stats.

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                  • wlliam
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by R_Walken
                    Quillen should have that fight and if he wasnt hated on this site there would be non stop threads about a judge scoring it 10-9 with a KD. when was the last time that happened

                    I could see if Lee lit Quillen up in the third and got a flash KD but that wasn't the case.
                    Thats actually a very good point you brought up with the 3rd rd KD...the ref ruled it a KD(whether i agree isnt thepoint), therefore it was "official" and the judge shouldve "officially" score it. What im basically getn at is that we cant be having judges scoring a round whatever the he11 they want when a KD is involved. What if he scored it a 10_10 rd bcuz he was impressed by Lee getn up off a shot like that? Flawed system

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                    • Daddy T
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                      #20
                      seems like the writer is only interested in showing how quillin could have got the nod and not how Lee could have .. like that knockdown in the third that was more of a slip than anything

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