Miguel Cotto vs Andy Lee on June 6?

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  • daggum
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    #51
    Originally posted by aldo5408
    wille monroe jr is good?
    didn't ggg first try to fight cotto, canelo, froch, quillin, lee, and chavez jr and they all said no or had fights already scheduled? It takes a bit more nuance than just looking at the opponent. How did he get that opponent is the question you should be asking and the answer is those guys turned him down or had fights scheduled. Now you should ask that same question to Cotto, How did he get geale/heiland? Did he try to fight ggg first or did he ignore him?

    So let me ask you a question How can you defend cotto for ignoring a good opponent while bashing ggg because he's the guy being ignored? Ultimately what's preventing a good fight ggg-cotto from being made? is it ggg? no. is it willie monroe jr? no. it's cotto. ggg-monroe is just a ripple effect that ducking has.
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      #52
      Originally posted by daggum
      we care now though. so cotto is trying to please future people while neglecting the present? what a champ!
      Cottos legacy is not made or broken by some guy name Golovkin. He already fought Mosley, Judah, Quintana, Clottey, Malignaggi, Margarito, Foreman, Mayorga, Martinez, Trout, Mayweather, Pacquiao. The list could go on and on he has fought the cream of the crop of his generation. He will fight Golovkin next year after he takes care of the bum Canelo.

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      • aldo5408
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        #53
        Originally posted by daggum
        didn't ggg first try to fight cotto, canelo, froch, quillin, lee, and chavez jr and they all said no or had fights already scheduled? It takes a bit more nuance than just looking at the opponent. How did he get that opponent is the question you should be asking and the answer is those guys turned him down or had fights scheduled. Now you should ask that same question to Cotto, How did he get geale/heiland? Did he try to fight ggg first or did he ignore him?

        So let me ask you a question How can you defend cotto for ignoring a good opponent while bashing ggg because he's the guy being ignored? Ultimately what's preventing a good fight ggg-cotto from being made? is it ggg? no. is it willie monroe jr? no. it's cotto. ggg-monroe is just a ripple effect that ducking has.
        Cotto is going to fight canelo next. A good opponent and a big business

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        • daggum
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          #54
          Originally posted by aldo5408
          Cotto is going to fight canelo next. A good opponent and a big business
          that's fine but why isn't he fighting ggg now? a better opponent and better business than geale/heiland. too risky right?

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            #55
            Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
            Cottos legacy is not made or broken by some guy name Golovkin. He already fought Mosley, Judah, Quintana, Clottey, Malignaggi, Margarito, Foreman, Mayorga, Martinez, Trout, Mayweather, Pacquiao. The list could go on and on he has fought the cream of the crop of his generation. He will fight Golovkin next year after he takes care of the bum Canelo.
            Yes he's fought good fighters in the past but this is the present. you don't get a life time achievement award that lets you avoid worthy challengers. if you don't want to fight someone either retire or go to another division. why doesn't he take care of him right now? why is he trying to take care of guys like geale/heiland? they don't need to be taken care of since they aren't relevant. ggg's been waiting for a year, he should show some respect to him and either give up the belt or fight him.

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              #56
              Originally posted by daggum
              Yes he's fought good fighters in the past but this is the present. you don't get a life time achievement award that lets you avoid worthy challengers. if you don't want to fight someone either retire or go to another division. why doesn't he take care of him right now? why is he trying to take care of guys like geale/heiland? they don't need to be taken care of since they aren't relevant. ggg's been waiting for a year, he should show some respect to him and either give up the belt or fight him.
              What has GGG done to get respect? I still dont know what has this dude done to get respect. The best win on his resume is Daniel Geale. If Cotto fight Geale and beats him it would not be even in his top 10 wins so what is to respect?

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                #57
                Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
                What has GGG done to get respect? I still dont know what has this dude done to get respect. The best win on his resume is Daniel Geale. If Cotto fight Geale and beats him it would not be even in his top 10 wins so what is to respect?
                so cotto should fight a guy that ggg ko'd instead of ggg who's ranked #1? i really don't understand fanatics.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  so cotto should fight a guy that ggg ko'd instead of ggg who's ranked #1? i really don't understand fanatics.
                  Cotto has a voluntary he could fight any one he wants. You people still dont get that.

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                    #59
                    GGG fought Martinez Left overs in Macklin and no one said ****. He fought a 154 pounder in Rosado and no one said ****, he fought Geale after a loss to Barker and no one said ****, he fought Ishida who had been KO 90 millon times and no one said ****. And that is so called most avoided figher and uncrown MW champ lol

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by AnimalisticMeth
                      Cotto has a voluntary he could fight any one he wants. You people still dont get that.
                      yes and he's not volunteering to fight ggg even though it would make him the most money, garner the best ratings, and get him the most respect. thanks for finally understanding.

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