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  • #11
    That's how he always looks. He was probably motivated to make a good impression on the stage, but otherwise that was the same Peterson as always.

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    • #12
      People really should give Peterson his due. It's time. He's always counted out and always treated like some nobody C class fighter but he goes out there and is competitive with damn near everyone. He's a pretty good fighter.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
        That's how he always looks. He was probably motivated to make a good impression on the stage, but otherwise that was the same Peterson as always.
        PEDerson usually looks ripped, but he dwarfed Danny last night, I was not expecting him to be that big.

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        • #14
          Peterson did little in the first half.

          He may have been juicing, but that inactivity put him in good stead to see out the fight, regardless of PEDs.

          Similarly Garcia fought a bad fight, entirely down to Peterson's lateral movement.

          There aren't 'lateral movement PEDs' knocking about. That's a conscious way to fight, through work in the gym to build up that intelligence and also instinct to move in that way.

          He may have been juicing, but what impressed me the most can't be PED'd into you.

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          • #15
            He's been caught once so we should be highly su****ious of him every time he steps into the ring

            He still defends himself

            He point blank cheated

            Here's what an expert doctor had to say about Pederson

            Boxing Insider: So Andre Berto. He tests positive for Norandosterone, and it was reported that the ultra trace amounts that Berto tested positive for is consistent with contamination, rather than intention. How would something be contaminated, and what supplements would he be taking?
            Dr. Ronald Kamm: You know what? Interestingly, both Peterson and Berto were the ones suggesting it (random testing)! There’s a lot of denial when you’re abusing either drugs or steroids. You have to use that psychological defense mechanism of denial, meaning, you don’t believe you’re really even taking them, or that you’ll truly get caught. You also won’t admit it to anyone else. If the test comes up positive, you still act as if you’re not using, or didn’t use, or that this or that thing was contaminated. The point was I think with these boxers, or at least one of them, they didn’t report that they were using supplements…supplement A or supplement B…

            Boxing Insider: Right. Peterson…
            Dr. Ronald Kamm: Every elite athlete knows that they must check with their physician or their sport’s governing body, or USADA, or VADA, to see whether what they’re contemplating using may be contaminated or not. The burden is on them. And they must not take anything that’s not on the approved list. So you can’t say, “Oh, I took this stuff and it was contaminated.” It’s on the boxer. Or on the boxer’s people.

            Boxing Insider: We’ll get back on the topic of contamination, but speaking of the boxer you just mentioned, Lamont Peterson, he had tested positive for synthetic testosterone. He claimed that it was a medical condition that he had that was due to low testosterone levels…
            Dr. Ronald Kamm: Exactly. But he did not disclose it prior to the fight.
            Boxing Insider: Correct. Is that normal for someone his age, and in his athletic shape to have levels like that?
            Dr. Ronald Kamm: I can’t say. It’s not normal to have low testosterone to begin with. People can be in good shape and come up low. It can vary, it can change, so it’s possible. It’s not probable, but it’s possible.
            Boxing Insider: Okay. Could having low testosterone be a result of using a certain drug which then causes lower levels if you go off it?
            Dr. Ronald Kamm: Well, if you have low testosterone and you’re being supplemented, and you’re being given testosterone by a doctor under prescription, and you just suddenly go off of it, it definitely causes withdrawal and that can have all kinds of psychiatric effects.

            Boxing Insider: Now if you’re a fighter—let’s take this over to boxing for example—in your medical opinion, what specifically is taking testosterone going to help you do in the sport of boxing?
            Dr. Ronald Kamm: It makes you stronger. You have faster recovery from injury. In a fight, if you were hit you might recover faster than if you weren’t on steroids. I think Khan was surprised that Peterson had the recuperative powers he did in their first fight. It also raises the boxer’s level of confidence, and his appetite for risk. That’s where it’s particularly scary, because it makes you more aggressive. Of course fighters are aggressive, but it’s supposed to be controlled aggression, which the referee tries to oversee and encourage. Then there’s aggressiveness to the point of going over the line. That is hitting the opponent low, or really continuing to hit an opponent when the ref’s trying to stop it, or right off the break.
            Obviously the extreme would be Mike Tyson biting Holyfield’s ear. I’m not saying Tyson was using steroids, but his behavior that night would be compatible with “roid rage,” that kind of overreaction. So, really, fighters are in danger. You are taking your life in your hands when you go into the ring, and you are more or less hoping—or expecting—that, yes, the other fighter wants to win…but he’s not out to destroy you or your career. It’s like what’s going on with the NFL today with head injuries. You understand there’s a risk. You understand you’ll be tackled, but you’re hoping that the other guy doesn’t want to end your career.
            But if you’re in there with somebody who’s hyped up on steroids, this guy won’t necessarily care about your career or anything else. Interestingly, when I looked at Peterson’s background, his father was in prison, the mother had personal issues— and of course, a lot of fighters do come from troubled backgrounds. But having a family history of emotional problems or a family history of drug use does put an individual at more risk for steroid use and abuse.
            Boxing Insider: Is that due to the nature of survival? Like you’ll do whatever you have to do to survive?
            Dr. Ronald Kamm: Well no, I just think it’s a genetic thing. You’re just predisposed.

            Boxing Insider: Something that you mentioned I found interesting was the factor of recovering faster in boxing. Of course if you get hit on the chin, you’d need that immediate recovery. What is your opinion medically when it’s said that somebody has a good chin in boxing? Do think that it’s based on conditioning? Genetics? Certain places that you’re more susceptible to being knocked out for instance—on the chin, above the temple, the back of the head—would a steroid necessarily help someone that gets hit flush on one of those spots? Would any kind of drug help that?
            Dr. Ronald Kamm: Yes it would. Because one of the places that steroids really [help] are the neck muscles. If you strengthen your neck muscles, you’re going to be able to absorb a hit to the chin better. The neck muscles really thicken in a steroid user. If you look at the neck of Barry Bonds when he first came up, and then, years later, when he was finally shamed out of the sport, it’s amazing. Not just the forehead, and in the hat size getting bigger, but the neck. There are some actual mathematical equations that a colleague of mine at Harvard uses, looking at photos and using a caliper and being able to predict who’s using and who’s not. But there’s also absolutely a genetic ability to absorbing a punch. Obviously the more you train, and the better shape you’re in, you’re going to absorb it better, too. But some guys just genetically can take it on the chin better, and other guys have a quote “weak chin.”

            Boxing Insider: Now you mentioned size of the head. Floyd Mayweather made reference to Manny Pacquiao, and the size of his head over the years. If you as a doctor, just with the eye test were to look at that, would you be su****ious of performance enhancing drug use based on that?

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            • #16
              Peterson took Danny's shots extremely well

              Lol at people defending this cheat

              He also lost the fight

              Was 6-1 down after 7

              Ended up 7-5 Danny on my scorecard

              Excellent scoring that fight

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              • #17
                people are predictably overrated PEDerson now. Any top boxer can look good against a no-defense stationary, telegraph-punching fighter like Garcia. Even faded boxers Morales and Judah had their moments

                PEDerson is atleast in his prime and doesnt own a glass jaw. Whatever **** he was one wasnt needed for tonight

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                • #18
                  Maybe the fact that he didn't had to go down to 140 helped him in this fight. Sometimes these last pounds have a very negative effect.

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                  • #19
                    Peterson had 4 good rounds and you guys act like this was a robbery?! Wtf

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                      So, was he juicing? He's already been caught but nothing much happened to him so I don't see why his positive results be hidden or simply destroyed. American sport is rife with this ****. I have never seen Peterson fight with the type of energy he had last night, he was moving better than when he was 25. I've seen almost all of Peterson's fight and that stamina was unreal. Something not quite right here. Any thoughts?
                      Of course Peterson is juicing but he only looked so strong last night because his opponent was clearly weight drained.

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