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  • nivek535
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    #1

    question regarding same-day-weigh-ins

    why dont we do this anymore?
    isn't it safer? less risk of fighters dehydrating themselves like crap.
    if you can't make weight anymore, then you should be moving up anyways.
    why do unnecessary harm to your body when the opponent can neutralize your "advantage" by doing the same?
  • Ham Porter
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    #2
    The other argument is that fighters will still attempt drastic weight cuts regardless of whether they're in the morning or the previous day, and that allowing them more time to properly rehydrate their bodies is safer.

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    • Dinamita 03
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      #3
      IMO a better solution would be to have a rehydration limit. Keep the same format of weighing in the day before, but place a restriction where they will be limited to rehydrating no more than one weight class. For example a WW wouldn't be able to rehydrate to more than 154 an hour or so before the fight.

      I think that would be a lot safer than having it the same day and still allowing fighter to rehydrate as they please. It would ensure there's no huge disparity in weight on fight night.

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      • Scipio2009
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        #4
        Originally posted by nivek535
        why dont we do this anymore?
        isn't it safer? less risk of fighters dehydrating themselves like crap.
        if you can't make weight anymore, then you should be moving up anyways.
        why do unnecessary harm to your body when the opponent can neutralize your "advantage" by doing the same?
        Because fighters routinely, outside of Mayweather a few others, are dropping 10% of their body weight in the sauna, and there's no way that the human body can drop that type of weight and perform at anywhere near a high level, especially within 12 hours.

        Just look at Sergey Kovalev; for the Hopkins fight, he weighed exactly 175 at the weigh-in and exactly 200 (the max day-of weight under the IBF) on fight night. If Kovalev didn't have to face that cap, he would've likely weighed in 204-208 for that fight.

        You make Kovalev weigh-in the day of and he probably still gets down to 175, but he likely doesn't put anywhere near all that water back into his body within 12 hours (noon weigh-in, followed by a 9pm ringtime).

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        • gamesworn
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          #5
          Originally posted by Dinamita 03
          IMO a better solution would be to have a rehydration limit. Keep the same format of weighing in the day before, but place a restriction where they will be limited to rehydrating no more than one weight class. For example a WW wouldn't be able to rehydrate to more than 154 an hour or so before the fight.

          I think that would be a lot safer than having it the same day and still allowing fighter to rehydrate as they please. It would ensure there's no huge disparity in weight on fight night.
          I agree. I replied this comment before in a different thread with the same topic like this^. The only problem is, some lower weight classes are only 4 pounds away to each other

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          • Scipio2009
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            #6
            Originally posted by Dinamita 03
            IMO a better solution would be to have a rehydration limit. Keep the same format of weighing in the day before, but place a restriction where they will be limited to rehydrating no more than one weight class. For example a WW wouldn't be able to rehydrate to more than 154 an hour or so before the fight.

            I think that would be a lot safer than having it the same day and still allowing fighter to rehydrate as they please. It would ensure there's no huge disparity in weight on fight night.
            The IBF seems to have a "rule of thumb" where a fighter gets 10% above the weight limit as the day-of rehydration cap.

            200[220]
            175[195]
            168[185]
            160[175]
            154[170]
            147[160]
            140[155]
            135[150]
            130[145]
            126[140]
            122[135]

            Still leaves a lot of room for silliness (most guys would be allowed to fight two weight classes below where their in-shape weight would put them), but it's a start.

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            • gamesworn
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              #7
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              The IBF seems to have a "rule of thumb" where a fighter gets 10% above the weight limit as the day-of rehydration cap.

              200[220]
              175[195]
              168[185]
              160[175]
              154[170]
              147[160]
              140[155]
              135[150]
              130[145]
              126[140]
              122[135]

              Still leaves a lot of room for silliness (most guys would be allowed to fight two weight classes below where their in-shape weight would put them), but it's a start.
              I like that^. Hopefully the other alphabets follows that 10% limit.

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