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  • #81
    Originally posted by Beercules View Post
    Floyd Sr. Talking too much, he's shook!



    Yet half as much as Roach....what's that mean?

    Anyways, Pacquiao ain't got no quit in him which is why he's in the position he's in today. Let's go May 2nd!

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    • #82
      Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
      Nice comeback! LoL. Floyd's violence cannot match Manny's violence. Floyd doesn't like to exchange or get hit. On May 2nd, he will get hit with speed and power at the same time! All of that smack he's talked over the years, he will pay for it with his blood. I don't care what anyone says, Manny is still violent.
      Manny hasn't look very violent in a long time. And please don't mention Algeri. Algeri is a bum. Even though Pacquiao is still more violent than Floyd, Floyd deals with pressure very well. It'll take more than just brute violence to beat Floyd, it will take smart violence sustained for a very extended period of time which is next to impossible against a fighter like Floyd.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by b morph View Post
        Manny hasn't look very violent in a long time. And please don't mention Algeri. Algeri is a bum. Even though Pacquiao is still more violent than Floyd, Floyd deals with pressure very well. It'll take more than just brute violence to beat Floyd, it will take smart violence sustained for a very extended period of time which is next to impossible against a fighter like Floyd.

        He looked ferocious in the Rios fight. He looked ferocious against Algeri as well. If Rios didn't shell up, he gets KO'ed. Manny looked AMAZING in that fight. The stuff that Legends are made of. I don't care that it was Rios. Against Algeri, he had his eyes closing by the 4th-5th round. If he didn't start running FAST, he gets KO'ed as well. You have to go deeper than what you are watching. Manny's violence is back. He's pissed off and he's fighting that way. He is smarter than ever in the ring. He doesn't have to even pressure Floyd to win. Everyone who thinks this, doesn't know boxing. Manny is a better overall fighter than Floyd. If anyone is predictable in there, it's Floyd, not Manny.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
          He looked ferocious in the Rios fight. He looked ferocious against Algeri as well. If Rios didn't shell up, he gets KO'ed. Manny looked AMAZING in that fight. The stuff that Legends are made of. I don't care that it was Rios. Against Algeri, he had his eyes closing by the 4th-5th round. If he didn't start running FAST, he gets KO'ed as well. You have to go deeper than what you are watching. Manny's violence is back. He's pissed off and he's fighting that way. He is smarter than ever in the ring. He doesn't have to even pressure Floyd to win. Everyone who thinks this, doesn't know boxing. Manny is a better overall fighter than Floyd. If anyone is predictable in there, it's Floyd, not Manny.
          When people start using the phrase, "I don't care....." then they're usually beyond debating with. You very well should care that Pacquiao looked so good against very limited fighters like Algeri and Rios. Neither are anywhere near the level of Mayweather. Regardless of your opinion of pressure on Mayweather, do you know what those who've come closest to beating him (Castillio, DLH & Maidana) did? They pressured him and used size advantage to deny him space, time and control. They just couldn't maintain it enough to get the W. No one's come close to outboxing Mayweather at range and those that managed to hurt him rarely had the opportunity to do it again.

          In most things, being "pissed off" is rarely good as it can cost you discipline and focus. If the aggression is controlled, then it is a good weapon. That being said, Pacquiao was pretty controlled and cautious (understandably) against Rios. Hardly reckless aggression. Against Algeri, there was absolutely no need for caution as the guy couldn't crack an egg with his punch. What both guys are facing is going to be very different from what they've faced before. Pacquiao needs to hurt Mayweather and early to keep things going his way. If he lets Mayweather dictate the pace, it'll spell trouble for him. Being pissed off is neither here nor there.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by b morph View Post
            Manny hasn't look very violent in a long time. And please don't mention Algeri. Algeri is a bum. Even though Pacquiao is still more violent than Floyd, Floyd deals with pressure very well. It'll take more than just brute violence to beat Floyd, it will take smart violence sustained for a very extended period of time which is next to impossible against a fighter like Floyd.
            Next to impossible? Go watch mayweather vs. Jose Luis Castillo 1 on YouTube. Castillo executed a perfect high pressure, high volume style from the 5th round on, and Floyd had no answer for it. After that fight Floyd has largely avoided highly aggressive fighters that throw high volume. Sure maidana threw a lot of punches, but that was unexpected. Maidana arguably deserved a draw. I though maidana won. Also de la Hoya had an in and out style against mayweather, and many people thought it was a draw or de la Hoya won. The Castillo fight was a clear robbery. If pacquiao throws 800 punches or more he will easily win. Mayweather doesn't deal with high pressure volume punching from an in and out fighter too well. Also southpaws like b class zab Judah had some success against mayweather before he gassed out. I think mayweathers only chance to win is by knockout which is only possible if angel heredia is giving him the peds he created to beat usada testing which Marion Jones and many other Olympic athletes used and passed tests for years. I dont think Floyd had enough time if he was using peds for him to gain the strength necessary to Ko pacquiao. It took Marquez 2 fights of working with angel heredia for the peds to have enough of an effect. The pacquiao Marquez 3 fight, Marquez couldn't even drop pacquiao even though he was working with angel heredia for the first time. This is mayweathers first time with memo so I dont see mayweather having much of a chance because his legs have slowed enough to make a big difference against pacquiaos power, volume, and aggression

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            • #86
              Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View Post
              Next to impossible? Go watch mayweather vs. Jose Luis Castillo 1 on YouTube. Castillo executed a perfect high pressure, high volume style from the 5th round on, and Floyd had no answer for it. After that fight Floyd has largely avoided highly aggressive fighters that throw high volume. Sure maidana threw a lot of punches, but that was unexpected. Maidana arguably deserved a draw. I though maidana won. Also de la Hoya had an in and out style against mayweather, and many people thought it was a draw or de la Hoya won. The Castillo fight was a clear robbery. If pacquiao throws 800 punches or more he will easily win. Mayweather doesn't deal with high pressure volume punching from an in and out fighter too well. Also southpaws like b class zab Judah had some success against mayweather before he gassed out. I think mayweathers only chance to win is by knockout which is only possible if angel heredia is giving him the peds he created to beat usada testing which Marion Jones and many other Olympic athletes used and passed tests for years. I dont think Floyd had enough time if he was using peds for him to gain the strength necessary to Ko pacquiao. It took Marquez 2 fights of working with angel heredia for the peds to have enough of an effect. The pacquiao Marquez 3 fight, Marquez couldn't even drop pacquiao even though he was working with angel heredia for the first time. This is mayweathers first time with memo so I dont see mayweather having much of a chance because his legs have slowed enough to make a big difference against pacquiaos power, volume, and aggression
              This is full of so many inaccuracies, it's funny! LOL

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              • #87
                I cant believe so many of these mayweather fans and other casual boxing fans believe the bs triangle theory that because mayweather beat Marquez so easily and pacquiao was pushed to the limit, that means mayweather will beat pacquiao easily. Marquez and pacquiao have 2 very different fighting styles. Marquez tried to counter punch mayweather, which is the worst game plan possible. Pacquiao has the exact style that troubles mayweather, and pacquiao is stronger, faster, more athletic, has better footwork, and throws more combos than any of the fighters in the past who either beat mayweather like Castillo did, or who came very close like de la Hoya or maidana. Pacquiao is levels above all three of those guys, and unless mayweather is planning to change his fighting style completely and allow himself to throw more punches and less defensive, he is going to get steamrolled. Even victor Ortiz had some success against mayweather, and had him hurt before he headbutted him. Imagine what a machine like pacquiao is going to do to this convicted woman beater!

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                • #88
                  The scribes gotta luv Pop Floydie. Anytime they need a wacko comment... there he is.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Marvellous1 View Post
                    When people start using the phrase, "I don't care....." then they're usually beyond debating with. You very well should care that Pacquiao looked so good against very limited fighters like Algeri and Rios. Neither are anywhere near the level of Mayweather. Regardless of your opinion of pressure on Mayweather, do you know what those who've come closest to beating him (Castillio, DLH & Maidana) did? They pressured him and used size advantage to deny him space, time and control. They just couldn't maintain it enough to get the W. No one's come close to outboxing Mayweather at range and those that managed to hurt him rarely had the opportunity to do it again.

                    In most things, being "pissed off" is rarely good as it can cost you discipline and focus. If the aggression is controlled, then it is a good weapon. That being said, Pacquiao was pretty controlled and cautious (understandably) against Rios. Hardly reckless aggression. Against Algeri, there was absolutely no need for caution as the guy couldn't crack an egg with his punch. What both guys are facing is going to be very different from what they've faced before. Pacquiao needs to hurt Mayweather and early to keep things going his way. If he lets Mayweather dictate the pace, it'll spell trouble for him. Being pissed off is neither here nor there.


                    So, when you watch a fighter in question, like Manny was against Rios, Bradley2, and Algeri; what didn't impress you about Manny? What would Manny have done to Maidana's face? I think Manny TKO's Maidana. If Broner had him hurt in the 11th and 12th like that, then Manny stops him. And since when has Manny EVER had a problem with his opponent's length? Height? Weight? Who was ever faster than Manny in a fight? Floyd is in BIG trouble. It's common sense, not fanboyism.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by jjsmyth87 View Post
                      I cant believe so many of these mayweather fans and other casual boxing fans believe the bs triangle theory that because mayweather beat Marquez so easily and pacquiao was pushed to the limit, that means mayweather will beat pacquiao easily. Marquez and pacquiao have 2 very different fighting styles. Marquez tried to counter punch mayweather, which is the worst game plan possible. Pacquiao has the exact style that troubles mayweather, and pacquiao is stronger, faster, more athletic, has better footwork, and throws more combos than any of the fighters in the past who either beat mayweather like Castillo did, or who came very close like de la Hoya or maidana. Pacquiao is levels above all three of those guys, and unless mayweather is planning to change his fighting style completely and allow himself to throw more punches and less defensive, he is going to get steamrolled. Even victor Ortiz had some success against mayweather, and had him hurt before he headbutted him. Imagine what a machine like pacquiao is going to do to this convicted woman beater!
                      Again, more inaccuracies in this rant-fest! Must be too much emotion. LOL

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