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  • torosboxing75
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    #11
    Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
    No more Alex Ariza, thats for sure.

    What happened to FLoyds idea of cleaning up "his sport"?

    Floyd is working with Ariza. Same guy he was calling a Ped cheat when we wanted him to fight Pacquiao. Same guy FLoyd thought was Giving Pacquiao his "PED Shakes".

    Now FLoyd has the same guy in his camp, same guy he wouldn't fight against because he thought he was giving Pacquiao Performance Enhancing Drugs, creating a "unbalanced playingfield".



    But now Ariza is in FLoyds corner, who he hired personally.


    All those excuses about making "our" sport a better place was BS.
    Floyd has the same guy he was worried about in his corner.

    It was always about him. Not about making this sport a better place.


    It means that Floyds fear was real, he saw a small fighter demolish guys like Cotto, Hatton, ODH, all common opponents. Something made them think twice about getting in the ring.

    Floyd hiring the same guy he "thought" was giving Pacquiao Peds exposed his fear, witch was real all along.



    Why would someone hide behind such a serious cause?

    we see the truth, some of us saw it all along.
    Sig worthy.

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    • torosboxing75
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      #12
      Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
      the difference in when ariza was working with manny and floyd pacman ran from testing until he ran into that Marquez punch and even after that in atleast two times Bradley and rios he skipped out on vada testing when it was suppose to be implemented floyd still doing the testing he asked for in 09 until now
      No the difference is both the guys Floyd just hired claim they can beat the test anyway and OSDT has to be year round or it's worthless. Does Floyd get tested year round? Nobody does except Nonito I think.

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        #13
        Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
        the difference in when ariza was working with manny and floyd pacman ran from testing until he ran into that Marquez punch and even after that in atleast two times Bradley and rios he skipped out on vada testing when it was suppose to be implemented floyd still doing the testing he asked for in 09 until now
        Pretty sure he was tested in the Rios fight, but I do recall Rios complaining about VADA showing Pacquiao favoritism. They didn't disturb Pacman too much while Rios was given a crash course on the random aspect of the testing.

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        • dnash1911
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          #14
          Pacfans are funny Memo is not working with Floyd, Ariza is and manny is working with known cheat Justin Fortune, so it seems as if you want him to go into a gunfight with a knife. Floyd has never had a strength coach, Manny built his career on using these types of guys and your calling Floyd a coward then whats Manny? A fraud?

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          • TrueBoxingFan23
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            #15
            Originally posted by torosboxing75
            No the difference is both the guys Floyd just hired claim they can beat the test anyway and OSDT has to be year round or it's worthless. Does Floyd get tested year round? Nobody does except Nonito I think.
            If that's the case PAC should have taken the test if they could have beat it!! That's ******!! You boys sound scared

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              #16
              Smart by roach as I think overtraining could hurt both fighters, moreso Floyd as I thought he rehydrated a lot in the 2nd Maidana fight, suggesting he didn't make 147 as easy as usual. I doubt Manny has an issue making weight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Smart by roach as I think overtraining could hurt both fighters, moreso Floyd as I thought he rehydrated a lot in the 2nd Maidana fight, suggesting he didn't make 147 as easy as usual. I doubt Manny has an issue making weight.
                Yea I am worried Floyd will overtrain. He has a lot riding on this fight and is very focused and doing things he never did before. I just hope both fighters come in 100% and ready to go!!!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TrueBoxingFan23
                  Yea I am worried Floyd will overtrain. He has a lot riding on this fight and is very focused and doing things he never did before. I just hope both fighters come in 100% and ready to go!!!
                  I think they will both be 100%. Overtrain is a bad word.

                  I just think Floyd is not making 147 as easy as he used to with the age and the poor eating habits (even though he is always in shape). Guess that's why he's spending so much on a chef and is working with Ariza/Memo.

                  I think he has to spend more time on conditioning and less on fight prep, which could make the fight more difficult than I think it should be for Floyd.

                  Barring some late development both will be ready to go and 100%. No excuses either way.

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                  • Evol
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    I think they will both be 100%. Overtrain is a bad word.

                    I just think Floyd is not making 147 as easy as he used to with the age and the poor eating habits (even though he is always in shape). Guess that's why he's spending so much on a chef and is working with Ariza/Memo.

                    I think he has to spend more time on conditioning and less on fight prep, which could make the fight more difficult than I think it should be for Floyd.

                    Barring some late development both will be ready to go and 100%. No excuses either way.
                    really dunn, really????? floyd doesnt even drink!!! or smoke! remember when that picture came out of floyd during training with a mcdonalds bag next to him? and floyd fans was saying thats all for show? why would floyd have a hard time making 147? i thought this was his natural weight???

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                    • hitking
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
                      No more Alex Ariza, thats for sure.

                      What happened to FLoyds idea of cleaning up "his sport"?

                      Floyd is working with Ariza. Same guy he was calling a Ped cheat when we wanted him to fight Pacquiao. Same guy FLoyd thought was Giving Pacquiao his "PED Shakes".

                      Now FLoyd has the same guy in his camp, same guy he wouldn't fight against because he thought he was giving Pacquiao Performance Enhancing Drugs, creating a "unbalanced playingfield".



                      But now Ariza is in FLoyds corner, who he hired personally.


                      All those excuses about making "our" sport a better place was BS.
                      Floyd has the same guy he was worried about in his corner.

                      It was always about him. Not about making this sport a better place.


                      It means that Floyds fear was real, he saw a small fighter demolish guys like Cotto, Hatton, ODH, all common opponents. Something made them think twice about getting in the ring.

                      Floyd hiring the same guy he "thought" was giving Pacquiao Peds exposed his fear, witch was real all along.



                      Why would someone hide behind such a serious cause?

                      we see the truth, some of us saw it all along.
                      Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
                      Non one is talking about Pac fans or FLoyd fans.

                      It is much easier to see the reason the fight didn't happen in 09,

                      It was fear all along, FLoyd exposed himself.

                      It wasn't about "cleaning up his sport". It was about him not believing a guy could demolish the likes of Cotto, ODH, Hattton, as a clean fighter, easier than he did.

                      his true cards are showing, it was fear.
                      Wonder if this dude thinx people read this long winded bull****.

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