Comments Thread For: Roman Gonzalez Expects Tough Fight in HBO Debut

[cabalas]

His last opponent had 27 losses though that's unreal for a guy at the top of the p4p list...

Gonzales is good but with questionable opposition. Next, he is facing Sosa who not only has already 8 defeats but is almost 36 yr old and has faded considerably in the last 4-5 yrs. Somebody posted that that fight would have been very competitive few years ago (2009-2010 but Gonzales had the minimum weight belt then and there was no way Sosa could've get to 105 pounds).

[Cut Man]

Why do so many people hate success? Hate Mayweather, Hate GGG

Roman Gonzalez is 42 - 0 with 36 KO's

He is a one of the best fighters in the world.

Give the man his respect

[jbpanama]

Look forward to seeing Roman, in Action!

As for the Great Alexis Arguello,
I don't think Suicide was the cause of death...
He wouldn't Jump thru the Sandanista's Hoops,
and they shot him in the chest...Suicide...BS!

[The Big Dunn]

This guy is beating dudes with 40, 7, 8, 10, 15 losses and made it to top 3 that way. I don't even know where boxing is heading, but it looks like a scary place with fans and writers backing Gonzalez and GGG's crap resume.

I think Gonzalez deserves his p4p ranking. I think GGG is one of the 5 most skilled fighters in the world along with Floyd, JMM, rigo, and ward despite disagreeing with anyone who ranks him in the top 10 p4p.

This said, this post is very fair.

[-Kev-]

From Edgar Sosa to Juan Estrada, the 10 opponents he fought/will fight(Sosa) average 7.4 losses. Let me repeat that: This guy is top 4 P4P fighting opponents who on average in his last 10 bouts, have 7 losses already. Excluding Estrada and Rodriguez Jr, the fighters he has fought have already been stopped before him, some of them multiple times.

BTW, Valentin Leon, 38-27 with 16 losses by KO, is by FAR the worst opponent any top 10 P4P fighter has fought in the past 10 years, even for a tune up/rust shaking fight. Even worse, the top 10 P4P fighter who fought this guy is actually top 4.

Meanwhile, Sergey Kovalev just got done beating two top 2 LHW's, recent/former Ring champions of LHW, and is barely hanging on to the #10 P4P spot.

This is disgraceful. Boxing turns into a disgraceful little slut when a power puncher blows away weak opposition and stays undefeated. The audacity fans have to actually defend this ****ery with a "If you don't like this guy, I don't even know what to tell you", please don't tell me anything, everything is already in my face. Boxing loves power punchers and will push the hell out of them over some one like Terrence Crawford cause beating Gamboa, Burns, Beltran, Prescott isn't good enough for top 10 but beating dudes with 7, 8, 11 losses, 27 losses gets you a #4 rank. Simply fabricating, creating a "great" fighter out of nowhere.

[buddyguns]

His last opponent had 27 losses though that's unreal for a guy at the top of the p4p list. He's a great fighter but he's clearly beating on overmatched opposition. He's been lucky guys like Estrada, Rodriguez turned out to be world champs after he fought them, they were virtually unknown when he faced them.

It's also unreal for a P4P fighter to still be collecting $20,000 and $30,000 fight purses, but that's the nature of the biz in the lower weights. There isn't enough money down there to push the big fights.

I also don't know if I'd call it luck that Estrada has gone on to achieve what he has after facing Gonzalez. This isn't a game of chance like Yahtzee, fighters make their own luck by training hard and handling their business in the ring. JMM has stated that Estrada is the future of Mexican boxing. Do you think that he made that statement based on Estrada's lucky nature, or the fact that he's a warrior?

[Dinamita 03]

It's also unreal for a P4P fighter to still be collecting $20,000 and $30,000 fight purses, but that's the nature of the biz in the lower weights. There isn't enough money down there to push the big fights.

I also don't know if I'd call it luck that Estrada has gone on to achieve what he has after facing Gonzalez. This isn't a game of chance like Yahtzee, fighters make their own luck by training hard and handling their business in the ring. JMM has stated that Estrada is the future of Mexican boxing. Do you think that he made that statement based on Estrada's lucky nature, or the fact that he's a warrior?

It's unfair I completely agree. Some of the guys fighting at the lower weights should be getting compensated more than guys at higher weights that are clearly inferior fighters. However, that's not an excuse for Roman to be fighting ****ty opposition. What other top 10 p4p fighter would get away with fighting a guy with 27 losses?

Lucky in the sense that Estradas name stands out on Romans resume due to Gallitos rise in the flyweight division. It wasn't luck that Estrada became a legit champion, but yes Roman is benefiting from that rise. Estrada is the best active Mexican fighter, but when did Marquez make those comments? I'm sure it wasn't before he fought Roman, rather sometime after he beat Viloria for the title.

[buddyguns]

From Edgar Sosa to Juan Estrada, the 10 opponents he fought/will fight(Sosa) average 7.4 losses. Let me repeat that: This guy is top 4 P4P fighting opponents who on average in his last 10 bouts, have 7 losses already. Excluding Estrada and Rodriguez Jr, the fighters he has fought have already been stopped before him, some of them multiple times.

BTW, Valentin Leon, 38-27 with 16 losses by KO, is by FAR the worst opponent any top 10 P4P fighter has fought in the past 10 years, even for a tune up/rust shaking fight. Even worse, the top 10 P4P fighter who fought this guy is actually top 4.

Meanwhile, Sergey Kovalev just got done beating two top 2 LHW's, recent/former Ring champions of LHW, and is barely hanging on to the #10 P4P spot.

This is disgraceful. Boxing turns into a disgraceful little slut when a power puncher blows away weak opposition and stays undefeated. The audacity fans have to actually defend this ****ery with a "If you don't like this guy, I don't even know what to tell you", please don't tell me anything, everything is already in my face. Boxing loves power punchers and will push the hell out of them over some one like Terrence Crawford cause beating Gamboa, Burns, Beltran, Prescott isn't good enough for top 10 but beating dudes with 7, 8, 11 losses, 27 losses gets you a #4 rank. Simply fabricating, creating a "great" fighter out of nowhere.

Nobody can argue that he gets weak opposition. It also can't be overlooked that there is substantially less money and fighters in the lower divisions. That's why it becomes a big deal when HBO finally decides to start injecting money into this weight class (which many believe is one of the best in boxing right now).

As for the P4P rankings, they can only vote on emotion so much. At the end of the day, the numbers have to be considered.

Golovkin is 13-0 (13 KO) in World Title fights.
Gonzalez is 11-0 (7 KOs) in World Title fights.
Kovalev is 6-0 (5 KOs) in World Title fights.
Crawford is 3-0 (1 KO) in World Title fights.

Kovalev and Crawford definitely deserve to be up there. But to say that GGG and Gonzalez were fabricated, doesn't make a lot of sense given their championship records.

[buddyguns]

It's unfair I completely agree. Some of the guys fighting at the lower weights should be getting compensated more than guys at higher weights that are clearly inferior fighters. However, that's not an excuse for Roman to be fighting ****ty opposition. What other top 10 p4p fighter would get away with fighting a guy with 27 losses?

Lucky in the sense that Estradas name stands out on Romans resume due to Gallitos rise in the flyweight division. It wasn't luck that Estrada became a legit champion, but yes Roman is benefiting from that rise. Estrada is the best active Mexican fighter, but when did Marquez make those comments? I'm sure it wasn't before he fought Roman, rather sometime after he beat Viloria for the title.

The Valentin Leon fight was an absolute joke. Nobody can deny that. I was forgiving of it given the fact that it was a free fight for his fans in Nicaragua. Their president Daniel Ortega asked him to do a free fight at home. Tyson Marquez wanted $100,000 to come there for a fight with no revenue. Most of the fighters on the short list for that fight priced themselves out.

There's no doubt that Gonzalez benefits from Estrada's rise, but a huge part of that is due to how great of a war those two put on against each other. Estrada made his own luck by giving Gonzalez way more of a fight than anyone else has. Both of those factors combine to create one of the most anticipated rematches in boxing. Hopefully now that HBO is in the picture, it will happen.

[-Kev-]

It's also unreal for a P4P fighter to still be collecting $20,000 and $30,000 fight purses, but that's the nature of the biz in the lower weights. There isn't enough money down there to push the big fights.

I also don't know if I'd call it luck that Estrada has gone on to achieve what he has after facing Gonzalez. This isn't a game of chance like Yahtzee, fighters make their own luck by training hard and handling their business in the ring. JMM has stated that Estrada is the future of Mexican boxing. Do you think that he made that statement based on Estrada's lucky nature, or the fact that he's a warrior?

If a fighter wants to get paid more money, he simply has to generate more revenue, more interest, more viewership, more demand. Gonzalez is not doing that, nobody knows who is outside of 15 people. As it stands, if Gonzalez fights on HBO on Saturday, he probably gets half of what Russell Jr/Gonzalez got, even less. He makes $20-30k because that's what his fights are worth. He's not fighting anyone that warrants $100k paydays. You don't just get money in boxing just because you make it in the pros, like MLB, NBA, NFL who get minimum of $400-600k a year no matter how much they suck or how unpopular their team is.