No One Can Strip Cotto of The Lineal MW Championship Of The World.

[bigjavi973]

Hence the term "paper title". He is lineal champion paper because he refuses to defend against top middleweights after beating a clearly disabled opponent.

What he is on paper is not debatable, he's the lineal champion until he's stripped, but whether it has any meaning in the real world is a pretty clear NO.

link? quote? list them also thank you.

[bigjavi973]

How many times has GGG defended his title? How many times has Cotto defended his?

Now tell me who the real champion is.

who did GGG beat for the wba & ibo ti.... oh wait IBO isn't a legit sanctioning body... anyway... who did GGG beat for the wba belt?

[The Big Dunn]

Nothing you say will change the FACT that Cotto has yet to defend his title against a middleweight. Or against anyone else for that matter. Once he does, I will consider him a valid MW title holder.

To make you even more happy, chances are that when Cotto vacates or gets stripped for not taking his mandatory, GGG will be directly promoted to WBC Champion and will not have to fight anyone for the title.

No, cotto hasn't defended his title yet. In part because HBO didn't have enough resources for the December 2014 fight they proposed. Then he was negotiating for the Canelo fight for May, then a possible Floyd fight. Then Canelo signed to fight Kirkland.

How you can hold these against him relative to the legitimacy of his title is fucking ridiculous.

GGG can get promoted to WBC champ as well, it doesn't matter to me. He just will never be lineal champ until he either:

defeats the lineal titlist or
defeats the #2 ranked MW should cotto retire with the lineal title

Posters like you dig your own grave with your obsession. Fact is Cotto actually won his title in the ring. Quillin actually won his in the ring. Sturm won his in the ring. Taylor won his in the ring. GGG did not.

[Bardock]

when did the CSAC, california state athletic commission, take away margo's pads before or after the cotto fight?

it wasn't known until the mosley fight, and he got suspended for over a year.

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/antonio-margarito-and-the-handwrap-issue

imo it is f^cking pathetic that you are literally defending a known cheater. F^ck outta here with bullsh^t like that. Don't dare call yourself a fan of boxing defending platerito

. Yet, you're a Tito fan.

[PeasantCrusha]

. Yet, you're a Tito fan.

Yet, Naseem is on record saying Tito's wraps were not "illegal.." Vegas legit...Not OK as per NYC rules. Does every boxer that fights in Vegas demonstrate Tito KO power? NO. King Tito is beast.


Now, had Tito actually had Margo-wraps, point to ANY one of his victims that looked like a Resto Victim or a Margarito victim.


You can't. Tito had them soft gentle wraps that knocked people the fck out.

[Bardock]

"Prior to the hearing, the California State Athletic Commission sent one of the inserts to the Bureau of Forensic Services at the California Department of Justice for testing. The Commission rejected a request by Margarito's attorney to allow his own expert to analyze the inserts. The lab results were not in before the hearing. On March 19, 2009, the Bureau of Forensic Services forwarded a report to the CSAC that read, Calcium and sulpher, two elements found in plaster of Paris, were found on the submitted gauze pad using an X-ray fluorescence [XRF] spectrometer. The elements calcium, sulpher, and oxygen are found in plaster of Paris. These three elements are also found in substances other than plaster. Oxygen is not detectable by XRF."

In other words, a forensic team couldn't prove that there was plaster of paris, even though there's a formula for it

Gypsum plaster (plaster of Paris)
Gypsum plaster, or plaster of Paris, is produced by heating gypsum to about 300 °F (150 °C)

CaSO4·2H2O + heat ***8594; CaSO4·0.5H2O + 1.5H2O (released as steam).
When the dry plaster powder is mixed with water, it re-forms into gypsum. The setting of unmodified plaster starts about 10 minutes after mixing and is complete in about 45 minutes; but not fully set for 72 hours.[3] If plaster or gypsum is heated above 392°F (200°C), anhydrite is formed, which will also re-form as gypsum if mixed with water.[4]

A large gypsum deposit at Montmartre in Paris led "calcined gypsum" (roasted gypsum or gypsum plaster) to be commonly known as "plaster of Paris".[5]

Plasterers often use gypsum to simulate the appearance of surfaces of wood, stone, or metal, on movie and theatrical sets for example. Nowadays, theatrical plasterers often use expanded polystyrene, although the job title remains unchanged.

Plaster of Paris can be used to impregnate gauze bandages to make a sculpting material called modroc. It is used similarly to clay, as it is easily shaped when wet, yet sets into a resilient and lightweight structure. This is the material that was (and sometimes still is) used to make classic plaster orthopedic casts to protect limbs with broken bones, the medical use having been partly inspired by the artistic use (see orthopedic cast). Set modroc is an early example of a composite material.

[bigjavi973]

. Yet, you're a Tito fan.

Both Tito & Plasterito were "caught" before their fight yes?

Plasterito got a long suspension and Tito is currently in the IBHOF.

it is not illegal to wrap your hands differently than other trainers...

had tito's fights been tarnished like plasterito, he wouldn't make the IBHOF.

[bigjavi973]

"Prior to the hearing, the California State Athletic Commission sent one of the inserts to the Bureau of Forensic Services at the California Department of Justice for testing. The Commission rejected a request by Margarito's attorney to allow his own expert to analyze the inserts. The lab results were not in before the hearing. On March 19, 2009, the Bureau of Forensic Services forwarded a report to the CSAC that read, Calcium and sulpher, two elements found in plaster of Paris, were found on the submitted gauze pad using an X-ray fluorescence [XRF] spectrometer. The elements calcium, sulpher, and oxygen are found in plaster of Paris. These three elements are also found in substances other than plaster. Oxygen is not detectable by XRF."

In other words, a forensic team couldn't prove that there was plaster of paris, even though there's a formula for it

Gypsum plaster (plaster of Paris)
Gypsum plaster, or plaster of Paris, is produced by heating gypsum to about 300 °F (150 °C)

CaSO4·2H2O + heat ***8594; CaSO4·0.5H2O + 1.5H2O (released as steam).
When the dry plaster powder is mixed with water, it re-forms into gypsum. The setting of unmodified plaster starts about 10 minutes after mixing and is complete in about 45 minutes; but not fully set for 72 hours.[3] If plaster or gypsum is heated above 392°F (200°C), anhydrite is formed, which will also re-form as gypsum if mixed with water.[4]

A large gypsum deposit at Montmartre in Paris led "calcined gypsum" (roasted gypsum or gypsum plaster) to be commonly known as "plaster of Paris".[5]

Plasterers often use gypsum to simulate the appearance of surfaces of wood, stone, or metal, on movie and theatrical sets for example. Nowadays, theatrical plasterers often use expanded polystyrene, although the job title remains unchanged.

Plaster of Paris can be used to impregnate gauze bandages to make a sculpting material called modroc. It is used similarly to clay, as it is easily shaped when wet, yet sets into a resilient and lightweight structure. This is the material that was (and sometimes still is) used to make classic plaster orthopedic casts to protect limbs with broken bones, the medical use having been partly inspired by the artistic use (see orthopedic cast). Set modroc is an early example of a composite material.

right there... you killed yourself... why does a fighter need extra inserts for? especially if they are from old handwraps? Seriously follow another sport that supports cheaters. Boxing isn't the place for you kid.

[PeasantCrusha]

Both Tito & Plasterito were "caught" before their fight yes?

Plasterito got a long suspension and Tito is currently in the IBHOF.

it is not illegal to wrap your hands differently than other trainers...

had tito's fights been tarnished like plasterito, he wouldn't make the IBHOF.

ALSO... BOTH Manny and Margarito wrapped their hands ala Tito for their fight in Vegas. NONE of them looked like King Tito that night.

[PeasantCrusha]

http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-gi...artinez--71095

Weak. Canelo is noted as "saying" he wants to fight so and so. He had ample time to face Sergio and did NOT. Talk is cheap.


Also... Not sure if you know this but, it's an unwritten rule to clap for yourself around here.

Cut back on the thing. It makes you look...Special.

No self-applause allowed. Effective immediately.