Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao's Legs The Difference With Mayweather

[GRUSTLER]

Your problem is this.....

Roach has been saying that Mayweathers legs were shot since before the Cotto fight, and he is clearly wrong.

So, my advice would be.....

Don't go with the guy who is clearly wrong !

Obviously Jones is full of stuff.

[WalkerSmith1921]

Let me see. Who should we go with on this? A HOF trainer or the BS poster Grustler? Really tough call.

Let me also see. Who did you believe in 2012 when JMM knocked Pac tfo? The BS poster or the HOF strainer? lol dumb ass just because he is a supposed HOF trainer because the boxing establishment feel sorry for his parkinsons doesn't make that stuttering fool an expert.

Manny was already fighting the way he fights and Khan was fighting the way he fights; so to me Roach really is a joke and you need to make up stuff because you are joning for attention!!!

[HURTFEELINGS]

so floyd legs were supposed to be shot before maidana II, afterwards they claimed he was running...so how does a fighter that with shot legs runs? Floyd controls distance and pac gets anxious and will eventually jump in and get caught...but he's gonna run doe. He's fought Canelo who outweighed him by 15lbs at fight time and walked him down, but he's supposed to run from a 148lbs fighter...Manny hasnt had ko power since he started doing testing and floyd has shown a great chin (manny not so much) Manny got ko'd by a 140lb boxer/counter puncher, now he's facing a better boxer and better counter puncher....good luck with that.

[megas30]

Having said all this, Freddie, do you think Manny deserves credit for the win? I mean, after all, he would have beaten an old Mayweather. On other hand, Floyd deserves all the credit if he wins, because he is "washed up" fighter.

[cupocity303]

Watching the 2nd Maidana fight where Floyd tripped over his own legs, because he couldn't hop and skip to a Ali like rhythym anymore made him look old. Agree that Floyd's legs aren't the same, but they're still very very good.

The reason his legs are starting to look shot is because his training routine is stale. He is doing the same old things over and over and your body builds up a tolerance and you make no "gains" as the bodybuilders like to say.

He has also had a bit of a Napoleon Complex IMO and has focused a lot on building up muscle during off season to appear more bulky and that has hurt him. Pacquiao's strength and conditioning coach said it best when he said that he is gonna put Pacquiao through different and new workouts to SHOCK his body into shape, instead of the same old, same old which you mentally get used to.

Maybe Floyd is doing just that in this training camp and will come out "In the best shape of his life" as they like to say.

[cupocity303]

Having said all this, Freddie, do you think Manny deserves credit for the win? I mean, after all, he would have beaten an old Mayweather. On other hand, Floyd deserves all the credit if he wins, because he is "washed up" fighter.

We can say the same about Floyd. Does he deserve credit for beating a Post-Delahoya, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito Pacquiao who Floyd suspected was on steroids and "that his health was more important". The Pacauiao who supposedly had more punching power and a stronger chin.

I mean he is fighting a Post-KO loss JMM, and from Floyd's own comments he seems relieved that Pacquiao is not the same since Ariza left.


My opinion is: Pacquiao gets all the credit if he wins for the simple reason that he is the FIRST to give Floyd an official loss. It's as simple as that. And Floyd gets ZERO credit because he hasn't accomplished anything new that Marquez and others already did. The only thing FLoyd gets out of this is a CAREER HIGH PAYDAY, which is what he should be happy with anyway.

It's all about the money isn't it.

[HURTFEELINGS]

We can say the same about Floyd. Does he deserve credit for beating a Post-Delahoya, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito Pacquiao who Floyd suspected was on steroids and "that his health was more important". The Pacauiao who supposedly had more punching power and a stronger chin.

I mean he is fighting a Post-KO loss JMM, and from Floyd's own comments he seems relieved that Pacquiao is not the same since Ariza left.


My opinion is: Pacquiao gets all the credit if he wins for the simple reason that he is the FIRST to give Floyd an official loss. It's as simple as that. And Floyd gets ZERO credit because he hasn't accomplished anything new that Marquez and others already did. The only thing FLoyd gets out of this is a CAREER HIGH PAYDAY, which is what he should be happy with anyway.

It's all about the money isn't it.

Floyd will have the same people on his resume also after this fight, except for plasterito

[aboutfkntime]

so floyd legs were supposed to be shot before maidana II, afterwards they claimed he was running...so how does a fighter that with shot legs runs? Floyd controls distance and pac gets anxious and will eventually jump in and get caught...but he's gonna run doe. He's fought Canelo who outweighed him by 15lbs at fight time and walked him down, but he's supposed to run from a 148lbs fighter...Manny hasnt had ko power since he started doing testing and floyd has shown a great chin (manny not so much) Manny got ko'd by a 140lb boxer/counter puncher, now he's facing a better boxer and better counter puncher....good luck with that.

NO !

Seriously, havent you guys been watching ?

Freddie Roach has been saying that Mayweathers legs were shot for at least 3 years.....
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...yd-is-hittable

He has been proven 100% wrong on AT LEAST three separate occasions.

I cant believe people are still discussing this.

Roach will be correct one day.

[GRUSTLER]

Let me see. Who should we go with on this? A HOF trainer or the BS poster Grustler? Really tough call.

Freddie Roach.........
December 1, 2012

As for Pacquiao, Roach said he couldn't ask anything more in the gym. He's in the best shape of his career, he said. He wants a knockout. To win, all he has to do is to fight his fight, do like he used to pressure, attack, don't give Marquez a chance to unleash. The way Manny's been sparring, I think he'll knock out Marquez.

http://www.philstar.com/sports/2012/...re-fifth-fight

Grustler.......
12-06-2012

I am looking forward to this fight because it's going to be the nail in Pacquiao's coffin.

Guess you are looking like a JACK ASS now huh funny guy?

[Hype job]

NO !

Seriously, havent you guys been watching ?

Freddie Roach has been saying that Mayweathers legs were shot for at least 3 years.....
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...yd-is-hittable

He has been proven 100% wrong on AT LEAST three separate occasions.

I cant believe people are still discussing this.

Roach will be correct one day.

Not shot but declined a lot, his opponents the last 3 years were all cement footed... coincidence? I think not.