Comments Thread For: Stevenson: Kovalev Unimpressive, Pascal Was Inactive!

[richardt]

Yep, I agree with you, that was a terrible thing.

Luckily the police investigated/resolved the issue.

Cant wait to see the Stevenson/Bika fight

Bro, I'm sorry, I just dont care.

Elements within the US government have done FAR worse to you and your people than anything Adonis Stevenson could have ever done.

They have ****d your freedom, burnt your constitution, and killed thousands of your own people.

Stevenson is a non-issue, in every aspect, until he fights a relevant opponent.

We will have to agree to disagree.

Very simple. Picture yourself with a daughter now or someday, under 18 who is your heart and soul and somehow gets caught up in a piece of hell called Stevenson and she goes through what other women under his control went through. If you have a daughter or eventually will have a daughter, you will look at Stevenson in a different way than men who do not have a daughter. It will hit you hard.

[aboutfkntime]

Very simple. Picture yourself with a daughter now or someday, under 18 who is your heart and soul and somehow gets caught up in a piece of hell called Stevenson and she goes through what other women under his control went through. If you have a daughter or eventually will have a daughter, you will look at Stevenson in a different way than men who do not have a daughter. It will hit you hard.

I have a daughter, and I do understand.....

Listen, I cannot disagree with you morally, you know that, you are 100% correct in principle..... but Richard, those kind of people are everywhere, those guys are everywhere NOW, not 15 years ago.

I am more worried about ****s who live down my street, than him.

If anybody steps foot on my property with bad intentions toward my family, I will bash them mercilessly, and possibly kill them, I hope my wife stops me..... I could become worse than Stevenson..... because I am far more afraid of letting my wife down, than anything the police think they can do to me..... when my children were very young I remember lying awake at night worrying about them, especially when my son first started school.

I understand bro.

I see it this way.....

1) it has been resolved for the victims, hopefully adequately
2) Stevenson did his time
3) there are currently far worse threats to my daughter than Stevenson

He is simply not on my list of current problems my friend, and to be honest, I dont think Stevenson is actually on anyones list of current problems.

There are approximately 150 patched gang members who live within a 10k radius in my city..... most if not ALL, are probably far worse than Stevenson.

I would like to bash all of them.

[gdub27]

Very simple. Picture yourself with a daughter now or someday, under 18 who is your heart and soul and somehow gets caught up in a piece of hell called Stevenson and she goes through what other women under his control went through. If you have a daughter or eventually will have a daughter, you will look at Stevenson in a different way than men who do not have a daughter. It will hit you hard.

I understand your disgust, but the guy did his time. You have a convicted armed robber that self admittedly terrorized a neighborhood of people as one of your favorites in your sig, but you managed to forgive him. Sin is sin. And that was only what he was caught for. This sport doesn't exactly attract choir boys. You have to, in some sense, enjoy hurting other people to do this successfully. Fighters and NFL defensive players are wired differently than most people.

[richardt]

I understand your disgust, but the guy did his time. You have a convicted armed robber that self admittedly terrorized a neighborhood of people as one of your favorites in your sig, but you managed to forgive him. Sin is sin. And that was only what he was caught for. This sport doesn't exactly attract choir boys. You have to, in some sense, enjoy hurting other people to do this successfully. Fighters and NFL defensive players are wired differently than most people.

Hopkins was a child at 13 and barely 16 when everything came to a close for him. He never stole from or harmed a woman and certainly did not beat on women. Adonis was an adult and at the age of accountability at 21 when he was beating women and holding knives to them and forcing them against their will. Difference in age and in the severity of their crimes. They don't compare. I am intolerant of a man or rather a coward who severely beats women.

[richardt]

And anyone who thinks he did not **** the women, reaches new heights of bias, ******ity, or cluelessness. Adult **** is having sex with a women completely against her will. No, we could never ever think that such a sweet, loving VIOLENT GANG MEMBER could have sex with a woman against her will, how dare we even think that.

[gdub27]

Hopkins was a child at 13 and barely 16 when everything came to a close for him. He never stole from or harmed a woman and certainly did not beat on women. Adonis was an adult and at the age of accountability at 21 when he was beating women and holding knives to them and forcing them against their will. Difference in age and in the severity of their crimes. They don't compare. I am intolerant of a man or rather a coward who severely beats women.

18 is as much a kid as 21. Taken from an article about Hopkins.

"By the time he was 11, he was already into petty theft; within two years, he was mugging people and had been to the emergency room three times with stab wounds. He joined a gang and graduated to higher crimes. By the age of 18 he had accumulated a rap sheet longer than his left arm. In 1982, after racking up nine felonies, he was sent to Graterford Prison for 18 years." It is wrong to commit violence against other humans, not just women. If my father or son was mugged I would be hurt as equally as if it were my mother or sister. When some punk shot and killed my cousin it didnt hurt any less because he was male.

Sin is sin man, but we all have to power to change our life.

[richardt]

18 is as much a kid as 21. Taken from an article about Hopkins.

"By the time he was 11, he was already into petty theft; within two years, he was mugging people and had been to the emergency room three times with stab wounds. He joined a gang and graduated to higher crimes. By the age of 18 he had accumulated a rap sheet longer than his left arm. In 1982, after racking up nine felonies, he was sent to Graterford Prison for 18 years." It is wrong to commit violence against other humans, not just women. If my father or son was mugged I would be hurt as equally as if it were my mother or sister. When some punk shot and killed my cousin it didnt hurt any less because he was male.

Sin is sin man, but we all have to power to change our life.

It was Adonis who was at the age of accountability, not Hopkins. Hopkins crimes were committed before he was 18, Stevenson's were up to the point of 21. And only one of the brutally harmed women, that was Stevenson. Sin is not sin. There is a different when a man takes a fist or weapon to a woman, holds her against here will, especially ongoing over a period of years.

[gdub27]

It was Adonis who was at the age of accountability, not Hopkins. Hopkins crimes were committed before he was 18, Stevenson's were up to the point of 21. And only one of the brutally harmed women, that was Stevenson. Sin is not sin. There is a different when a man takes a fist or weapon to a woman, holds her against here will, especially ongoing over a period of years.

In the US 17 is the age of accountability for felonies. All Violent offenders are deemed just that, violent offenders. Treated different from non-violent offenders. Age is not a line of demarcation here, maybe in Canada, but not here. If the crime is bad enough 15 year old kids are prosecuted as adults in the US.

[richardt]

In the US 17 is the age of accountability for felonies. All Violent offenders are deemed just that, violent offenders. Treated different from non-violent offenders. Age is not a line of demarcation here, maybe in Canada, but not here. If the crime is bad enough 15 year old kids are prosecuted as adults in the US.

Under 18, a person is still a child and only if a crime is horrid do they carry out a sentence matching an adult. Hopkins was a child when he started at 13 and it ended when he was still a child. Stevenson was a man in his 20's when his crimes were taking place. But the greater message is one man beat women, threatened them with knives, forced them to fight each other, imprisoned them with fear of their lives, causing great physical and emotional damage to women. That was Stevenson. There was a point Hopkins did not go beyond and that was women as he mentioned in an article. The point Hopkins did not go beyond - Stevenson sadistically burned holes through and lounged in for years.

[gdub27]

Under 18, a person is still a child and only if a crime is horrid do they carry out a sentence matching an adult. Hopkins was a child when he started at 13 and it ended when he was still a child. Stevenson was a man in his 20's when his crimes were taking place. But the greater message is one man beat women, threatened them with knives, forced them to fight each other, imprisoned them with fear of their lives, causing great physical and emotional damage to women. That was Stevenson. There was a point Hopkins did not go beyond and that was women as he mentioned in an article. The point Hopkins did not go beyond - Stevenson sadistically burned holes through and lounged in for years.

I as stated in the beginning, I can see your point when it comes to females, but they were both predatory in their behavior attacking weaker people. My point is that people can change and be redeemed. I don't know how old you are, but I am by far not the same guy i was at 21 at the age of 38.