Why is Tim Bradley not fighting Haymon/Golden Boy fighters?

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  • jvsnypes
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    #21
    Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
    Other than Khan I can't see Bradley being favored in any of those match ups. No doubt he can compete with all those guys but I'd fancy those other guys. They all have the stylistic or physical advantage over Tim. All except Khan who can't fight on the inside. I could see Tim forcing Khan into that kind of fight.
    I feel just the opposite. Bradley, to me, is the number 3 ranked welterweight in the world and a top 6 p4p fighter. Whether people agree with the outcome of the Pac fights or not, Tim fought an all time great at a very high level. He showed the total package against a very dangerous Marquez, who is a future 1st round ballot hall of famer. Who has Garcia, Broner, Thurman, or Khan defeated on that level to make anyone think they would be favorites over Bradley? Of the 4, I think it would be Khan who would be Tim's biggest threat. Khan is not a very good inside fighter, but his height, reach, and hand speed would cause Bradley major problems. The rest on the list are tailor made for Tim. I honestly see him outboxing Garcia and beating Broner up. A fight with Thurman would be big! If Tim fights him in the manner he fought, Peterson, I think he wins a decision. If he comes in trying to **** with him, Thurman wins. Anything can happen in boxing, but as of now with Tim's all around resume, I see him as the better and higher caliber fighter compared to these other guys. The sad thing is, I think Tim is now strictly fighting for that big pay check from TR and no longer seeking greatness. He has made good money fighting under the TR banner, but his legacy would have been greater fighting with Haymon. Al has the best 140 and 147 fighters under him. If Tim moves too far up in weight, he will start losing to lesser opponents due to lack of size and power.

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    • jvsnypes
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      #22
      Oh, and I forgot about Porter. That is a great match up. Once again, if Tim uses his speed and boxing skills, I think he easily outpoints him. But if he stands and **** with him like he did Chaves and Ruslan, it becomes a toss up fight that favors Porter.

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      • -PBP-
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        #23
        Al Haymon & Top Rank is a no go unless its May/Pac.

        GBP has nobody for him to fight. If he beats Bundrage maybe he can fight Canelo.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #24
          Because Golden Boy doesn't have anyone anymore, and other than Mayweather/Pacquiao there are no Top Rank/Haymon matchups. Hopefully that changes now that that fight is on.

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          • -MEGA-
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            #25
            Well, there's the Cold War thing still, obviously. But even if there was a working relationship between them, I doubt haymon would want to pit those guys against bradley for the reasons you just said. Bradley has a good shot of beefing all of them and would derail a lot of Haymon's planss for them. Why would he risk that if bradley is not with haymon?

            On another note it's interesting that haymon hasn't tried to sign tim to a mangerial contract. I bet he tried and tim shot it down.


            If I were tim I'd target Kell Brook. Or I guess go after a belt in a third weight class. That would open up some other big opportunities.

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            • Fetta
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              #26
              Because he robbed PAc and then was robbed himself against Chaves.

              They want to keep him around for a minute so even if you win you probably wont

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                #27
                Originally posted by jvsnypes
                I feel just the opposite. Bradley, to me, is the number 3 ranked welterweight in the world and a top 6 p4p fighter. Whether people agree with the outcome of the Pac fights or not, Tim fought an all time great at a very high level. He showed the total package against a very dangerous Marquez, who is a future 1st round ballot hall of famer. Who has Garcia, Broner, Thurman, or Khan defeated on that level to make anyone think they would be favorites over Bradley? Of the 4, I think it would be Khan who would be Tim's biggest threat. Khan is not a very good inside fighter, but his height, reach, and hand speed would cause Bradley major problems. The rest on the list are tailor made for Tim. I honestly see him outboxing Garcia and beating Broner up. A fight with Thurman would be big! If Tim fights him in the manner he fought, Peterson, I think he wins a decision. If he comes in trying to **** with him, Thurman wins. Anything can happen in boxing, but as of now with Tim's all around resume, I see him as the better and higher caliber fighter compared to these other guys. The sad thing is, I think Tim is now strictly fighting for that big pay check from TR and no longer seeking greatness. He has made good money fighting under the TR banner, but his legacy would have been greater fighting with Haymon. Al has the best 140 and 147 fighters under him. If Tim moves too far up in weight, he will start losing to lesser opponents due to lack of size and power.
                I think Tim was a very good JWW. At WW Tim is an average fighter in my opinion. He doesn't have 1 win against a natural WW. How can he be a top WW when he doesn't have 1 win against one?

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                • paulf
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SergioMartinez
                  What is it with these weird ass fan boy responses??

                  No one is saying Tim should leave Top Rank, I'm just saying there are big fights out there that Tim can win at 147.
                  No one, and I mean no one, has been asking to fight Tim Bradley. There are guys out there you'd favor over Bradley, sure, but by how much? Tim is dangerous for anyone and everyone knows it.

                  He'is going to fight whoever gets put in front of him: K9, Cotto, Rios, whoever. Acting like Tim Bradley is avoiding certain fighters due to their promoters is silly.

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                  • HanzGruber
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -MEGA-
                    Well, there's the Cold War thing still, obviously. But even if there was a working relationship between them, I doubt haymon would want to pit those guys against bradley for the reasons you just said. Bradley has a good shot of beefing all of them and would derail a lot of Haymon's planss for them. Why would he risk that if bradley is not with haymon?

                    On another note it's interesting that haymon hasn't tried to sign tim to a mangerial contract. I bet he tried and tim shot it down.


                    If I were tim I'd target Kell Brook. Or I guess go after a belt in a third weight class. That would open up some other big opportunities.
                    Doubt Tim would leave his wife for haymon

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #30
                      Bradley only fights about once a year anyway. He is promoted by Arum and usually lets Arum get him fights. I don't think Haymon and Arum get along with each other. Bradley is fighting Bundrage. He will probably win but he is not a 154 pounder. He is a small welterweight who fought comfortably at 140 not so long ago.

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