when did golovkin become a monster?

[Jim Jeffries]

Golovkin definitely needs to move up immediately. He's making Floyd look bad. One of Floyd's best wins (Cotto) is ducking the hell out of him. He's stopping Floyd from cherry picking himself a linear MW title. His offer to fight Floyd at 154 is making Floyd's titles there look cherry picked (especially the Canelo CW catchweight one.) He makes Floyd look bad next to guys like Duran or DLH, who jumped up to MW and fought ATG MWs Hagler and Hopkins.

Personally I'd like to see him fight Quillin, Lemieux, Cotto and Lee. Pick up the linear MW title and unify. Fight a Chavez Jr type tune up or two at SMW and then take on Ward.

[-Kev-]

I wasn't giving my opinion.

Froch had to fight James DeGale to keep his IBF belt. He didn't and as a consequence he has had to drop his belt. You said Froch hadnt avoided a single fighter at 168. But he has, irrespective of whether it was justified, James DeGale was the mandatory challenger for Froch's belt and Froch vacated rather than face him. That's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Froch is quick to remind people he was Joe Calzaghe's mandatory for the WBC and Calzaghe did the exact same thing, vacated.

Froch was undefeated.

DeGale lost to a guy Froch went on to stop twice.

You're being technical. But i'm saying, there was never any fighter Froch had to fight and he didn't fight him. When I say this, I am talking about fan and media pressure, not ABC mandatory.

[Ravens Fan]

This was going to be my exact answer to you, I was going to click reply and type this virtually word for word:

I already stated that Froch has the much better resume so no need for you or the other poster to be so redundant. As for what ever else you said it is a bunch of horse 5hit! And why? Who was GGG suppose to fight at middleweight and who will he fight if he moves up to SM?

Froch he is 37 years old and already has one foot in retirement. He has already made it rather clear that he ain't fighting GGG. As for Ward, his next career move is still a huge unknown. So who else is there? I also have to ask have you looked at the top ten of the SM division lately?

The second ranked fighter in the division, King Arthur, is well past his prime and he has spent a career beating up European domestic level fighters. And when he has stepped up he has had his a$$ handed to him every time. So what can that possibly say about the rest of the division?

In my opinion it doesn't say much and at this point in time the top ten of the SM division doesn't look all that different then the middleweight division. In other words its obvious to me that the time of the Super Six in the SM division has long passed on and it hasn't left much in its wake.

Therefore I have no problem with GGG staying at middleweight. That is as long as he stays away from fighting the Willie Monroe's of the world on a regular basis and attempts to unify the belts. If he doesn't do that then I may come back and even agree with you.

[Jcsuper]

Golovkin definitely needs to move up immediately. He's making Floyd look bad. One of Floyd's best wins (Cotto) is ducking the hell out of him. He's stopping Floyd from cherry picking himself a linear MW title. His offer to fight Floyd at 154 is making Floyd's titles there look cherry picked (especially the Canelo CW catchweight one.) He makes Floyd look bad next to guys like Duran or DLH, who jumped up to MW and fought ATG MWs Hagler and Hopkins.

Personally I'd like to see him fight Quillin, Lemieux, Cotto and Lee. Pick up the linear MW title and unify. Fight a Chavez Jr type tune up or two at SMW and then take on Ward.

So a guy fighting tomato cans after tomato cans in his first division is making a fighter who is a five division champ, p4p #1 going to fight p4p #2 look bad ?

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