Comments Thread For: J. Mayweather: Ariza Knows Pacquiao's Flaws, History

[PivotandRoll]

Fortune isn't smart enough to beat the testing nor does he have the connections to the people who do, which is why he got caught. No one really cares about Fortune because he was just a small time user of substances, not a chemical mastermind who can outwit the testers.

So Pacquiao's cheater is not as good as Floyds? That's not what we are measuring? **** out of here with your obvious agenda

[2120]

floyd wants dem ariza shakes that's why he got him!
If floyd comes in and gives pac the hatton treatment or a prolonged beat down like pac gave to cotto. It's those ariza shakes.

[HeGotPacProblem]

"Its about training smarter, not harder" -Floyd

[ADP02]

Dont be so narrow minded Rios is like a draught horse while Floyd is a Thoroughbred , which one do think would benefit from "advanced training" .

You too believe, like Floyd, that whoever trains with Ariza must be doing some kind of "advanced training"?



Heredia: There is no doubt about it. The difference between 10.0 and 9.7 seconds is the drugs.



SPIEGEL: Can drugs make anyone into a world record holder?



Heredia: No, that is a misapprehension: “You take a couple of tablets today and tomorrow you can really fly.” In reality you have to train inconceivably hard, be very talented and have a perfect team of trainers and support staff. And then it is the best drugs that make the difference. It is all a great composition, a symphony. Everything is linked together, do you understand? And drugs have a long-term effect: they ensure that you can recover, that you avoid the catabolic phases. Volleyball on the beach might be healthy, but peak athletics is not healthy. You destroy your body. Marion Jones, for example ...

SPIEGEL: ... five-time Olympic medallist at Sydney 2000 ...

Heredia: ... trained with an unparalleled intensity. Drugs protect you from injury. And she triumphed and picked up all the medals.

SPIEGEL: Are you proud?

Heredia: Of course, I still am. It is still a tremendous achievement

[wlliam]

3 years ago, Ariza was being accused of being a PED peddler by a certain fanbase. Now, he is strictly the best S&C coach around according to that same fanbase. I think that is the issue.

Dude it goes both ways

If Ariza is dirty then Pacs dirty as well, even more so than floyd bcuz pacs the one who ducked testing in the 1st place.

Comical how things get spun.

So if Pac loses...floyds on roids?

[ADP02]

Dude it goes both ways

If Ariza is dirty then Pacs dirty as well, even more so than floyd bcuz pacs the one who ducked testing in the 1st place.

Comical how things get spun.

So if Pac loses...floyds on roids?

Not according to your hero Floyd. Floyd admits that Manny is not on PEDs. According to Floyd, if you are currently in training with Ariza, then that athlete is on PEDs. Floyd said the same about Rios, Maidana ....

Using Floyd's theory, Floyd is on PEDs not Manny. Well, it is the most important fight of Floyd's career ...... Floyd is taking no chances.


"I noticed since Ariza is not with Pacquiao, a total change in Pacquiao's power," he said. "I don't see the same pop in Pacquiao's shots, the same snap. He is getting tired." - Floyd Mayweather

[masterpatric09]

Gayweather is doping wild

Now that Memo is helping Ariza with erasers and stron dope like the one He gave to Marquez, is not going to be an even field for Manny.


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[mathed]

So Pacquiao's cheater is not as good as Floyds? That's not what we are measuring? **** out of here with your obvious agenda

I'm saying he is on the same level as someone like Mikey Bey juicing up; he's a small time user. A guy on the level or Heredia only got found out because people he was working with snitched him out. Even Ariza has far more knowledge than a dude like Fortune does.

The simple fix.........Floyd should have just kept his camp and team the same as he had for the prior fights instead of bringing in the guy that virtually all the hardcore Floyd fans were calling a cheat for the past 5 years an associating himself with a mastermind PED expert like Heredia. Had he not switched anything up, I guess there would be no "agenda" to be speak about.

[masterpatric09]

Same DOPING MARQUEZ used

Guess Who provided the dope to Marquez? YEAH MEMO HEREDIA, Gayweather never used Heredia and now He is desperate to hire him and Ariza?Blood doping is not enough against Manny? We will see Gayweather with Bigger shoulders and pecs. mark My words. Cheaterweather loses anyway.

[mathed]

Dude it goes both ways

If Ariza is dirty then Pacs dirty as well, even more so than floyd bcuz pacs the one who ducked testing in the 1st place.

Comical how things get spun.

So if Pac loses...floyds on roids?

I just posted in another thread that I believe that both Pac and Floyd have used illegal substances in the past, so how are things getting spun again. I'm simply pointing out that you hardcore Floyd fans were all about Ariza being a certified cheat when he was with Pac but now that he is with Floyd, he is on the up and up. Sounds to me like all the spinning is coming from one side of things.

From "Ariza shakes" to "advanced training". It also sounds like Ellerbe was spinning the nature of that proposal that Kunz wanted everyone to sign as well. Says it was a cap at 5mill in an attempt to limit Pac's penalty liability when it was an additional, immediate payout paid directly to the fighter on top of all the other penalties. Why the need to spin it for the public, why the direct resistance to signing it if there is nothing to hide? Just saying, there is some spinning going on for sure, just think you got the direction that it is coming from all wrong.