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    Golovkin's Opposition Revisited

    B Class Level GGG wins
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    Martin Murray:
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    Highlights: Never been knocked out prior to facing GGG. Top 10 middleweight at the time of the fight.

    Notable wins:

    Felix Sturm (Robbery in Germany. Sturm, a former IBF & WBA World middleweight champion - and soon possibly WBA World super middleweight champion. Sturm beat legendary former world champion - in many weight classes - Oscar De La Hoya, in quite a famous robbery. Sturm also finished former IBF World middleweight champion Darren Barker's career. Sturm also beat former IBF World middleweight champion Sebastian Sylvester, finished former interim WBC World middleweight titleholder Sebastian Zbik's career, & former WBC World super welterweight & WBA World middleweight champion Javier Castillejo. Sturm ducked GGG).

    Sergey Khomitsky (Note that Murray lost the rematch. Sergey was dominating former WBO World super middleweight champion Robert Stieglitz, robbed as it was declared a TKO because there was an issue with his gloves in robber baron country Germany. Other notable Khomitsky wins are former WBO European super middleweight titleholder Frank Buglioni & former EBU European super welterweight titleholder Jamie Moore. Golovkin, by the way, was the first person to KO the sturdy Khomitsky. Sergey is fighting next week, go Sergey!)

    Max Bursak (Soon fighting for the International Boxing Organization World super middleweight title and will highly likely win it. Beat Sergey Khomitsky, see above. Beat Brian Vera who beat WBO World middleweight champion Andy Lee, & later on Vera was robbed against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Vera also has a couple of dodgy decisions over former WBC World super welterweight champion Sergio Mora, and of course Vera finished former WBO World super welterweight champion Serhiy Dzinziruk's career).

    Sergio Gabriel Martinez (Robbery. The caveat here is that Martinez had shot knees and was easy prey to Miguel Cotto shortly after, so it is highly unimpressive that Murray was unable to finish Martinez. Martinez beat former WBC & WBO World middleweight champion Kelly Pavlik, viciously destroyed the highly regarded and ducked Paul Williams, toyed with an unbeaten former WBO World super welterweight champion Serhiy Dzinziruk, beat should've been former WBA Super World middleweight champion Matthew Macklin, and former IBF World middleweight champion Darren Barker. Martinez ducked Golovkin).

    Daniel Geale
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    Highlights: Never been knocked out prior to facing GGG. Top 10 middleweight at the time of the fight. Former IBO & IBF & WBA World middleweight champion.

    Notable wins:

    Felix Sturm (See above).

    Roman Karmazin (Former IBF World super welterweight champion who beat prime Kassim Ouma).

    Anthony Mundine (Former IBO & IBF World Middleweight champion who beat former IBF World middleweight champion Sam Soliman 3 times).

    Sebastian Sylvester (Former IBF World middleweight champion who beat Euro champ level fighters such as Amin Asikainen, Mahir Oral, Morrade Hakkar, & former WBA World middleweight champion Javier Castillejo).

    Also cruised against Jarrod Fletcher, Osumanu Adama, & Garth Wood.

    C Class level GGG wins
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    Marco Antonio Rubio (Solid chin, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr was unable to KO Rubio. Rubio beat David Lemieux who's a solid KO machine).

    Matthew Macklin (Beat Felix Sturm but was robbed for the WBA Super World middleweight title. Also beat Joachim Alcine and Amin Asikainen & Wayne El**** among others. Top 10 Middleweight at the time of his fight with Golovkin).

    C- Class level GGG wins
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    Nobuhiro Ishida (Had never been knocked out and beat James Kirkland).

    Kassim Ouma (Possibly shot former IBF World super welterweight champ. He could've died in the GGG fight due to an irresponsible incompetent referee, go watch that fight if you like brutal punishment).

    Sergey Khomitsky (Late bloomer, too many losses and especially robberies. Should've gotten the nod over Murray in their rematch, and was clearly making Super Middleweight champ Stieglitz his b*tch).

    Osumanu Adama (Had never been knocked out and beat former IBF World super welterweight champion Roman Karmazin).

    Gabriel Rosado (He has victories over Kassim Ouma, Saul Roman, Jesus Soto Karass, & Sechew Powell. Plus he gave Peter Quillin hell. However, Golovkin and his own paper skin have ruined him and his stock tanked hard as of late).

    Grzegorz Proksa (Beat former IBF World middleweight champ Sebastian Sylvester but GGG demolished his body and confidence. Top 10 Middleweight at the time of his fight with Golovkin).

    Curtis Stevens (Beat former EBU European super middleweight titleholder Piotr Wilczewski. Also beat Saul Roman, Elvin Ayala, and Tureano Johnson in a dodgy decision).

    Nilson Julio Tapia (That win over Jorge Sebastian Heiland and the close decision loss to Austin Trout make me wonder about this guy).

    D Class level GGG wins
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    Ian Gardner

    Mehdi Bouadla

    Lajuan Simon

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    Golovkin needs a Ward, Froch, Chavez Jr caliber opponent IMO. Willie Monroe Jr? Please.
    Last edited by 13777; 03-29-2015, 03:40 AM.
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    Way more people thought Sturm beat Murray than vice versa, but draw was a perfectly fair score.

    If anything, Khomitski was robbed in the Murray fight. Murray was lucky as hell the scores were in his favor because he won a single round clearly (#4) in the entire fight.
    EDIT: Sweet, didn't realize he's fighting next week. Looks like he's gonna do what he does best, expose undefeated British fighters.
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      Fighters be ducking doe

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        Originally posted by PivotandRoll
        Fighters be ducking doe
        ****ty alts be trolling doe

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        • Eastcoast
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          Originally posted by Wolfert
          B Class Level GGG wins

          Kassim Ouma (Old & shot former IBF World super welterweight champ. He could've died in the GGG fight due to an irresponsible incompetent referee, go watch that fight if you like brutal punishment).
          Old & shot? How do you figure? He wasn't at his peak but he wasn't shot either.

          At 32 years old he was coming off a TKO win over a big MW in Joey Gilbert and 8 months prior to that he was robbed vs Matirosyn. People wrote him off because after losing to Taylor (Ouma had stylistics flaws as demonstrated by Karmazin), he then dropped close decisions to Roman, Bundrage, and Rosado. During that period he admitted to not having focus on his career and was taking fights at short notice. Just before Ouma fought Rosado, HBO tried to make Angulo/Ouma after Mayorga pulled out and Angulo refused Ouma, instead choosing retired WW Cosme Rivera.

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            He has the ability. Anybody with two eyes can see that. GGG can be a bit robotic at times especially when he's on the offensive but there's no perfect fighter out there. At 160 he's as good as it gets right now. The sooner everybody comes to grips with that the better.

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            • soul_survivor
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              Pretty decent break down but Rubio would be z class win, the guy hadn't done **** in years.

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                You are trying to make GGG look bad with your ridiculous, bias, grading system. If a guy is rated in the top 5 or 10 fighters in the world at 160 then he is class A not C or D. C or D would be for fighters not even in the top 50. GGG has defeated many fighters rated in the top 10 at middleweight when he fought them. Rubio, Murray, Geale and many more were top 10 when he fought them but were often dropped from the top 10 AFTER he knocked them out. Get to the point. If GGG is so bad then name all the 160 pounders you think can beat him. That should be good for a laugh.

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                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                  If anything, Khomitski was robbed in the Murray fight. Murray was lucky as hell the scores were in his favor because he won a single round clearly (#4) in the entire fight.
                  EDIT: Sweet, didn't realize he's fighting next week. Looks like he's gonna do what he does best, expose undefeated British fighters.
                  Khomitsky was surely robbed in the Murray rematch. I'm partial to late bloomers such as Sergey, they're sort of real life versions of Stallone's Rocky.

                  Yeah love to see padded records exposed.

                  Originally posted by Eastcoast
                  Old & shot? How do you figure? He wasn't at his peak but he wasn't shot either.

                  At 32 years old he was coming off a TKO win over a big MW in Joey Gilbert and 8 months prior to that he was robbed vs Matirosyn. People wrote him off because after losing to Taylor (Ouma had stylistics flaws as demonstrated by Karmazin), he then dropped close decisions to Roman, Bundrage, and Rosado. During that period he admitted to not having focus on his career and was taking fights at short notice. Just before Ouma fought Rosado, HBO tried to make Angulo/Ouma after Mayorga pulled out and Angulo refused Ouma, instead choosing retired WW Cosme Rivera.
                  It's a matter of perception, Ouma reminded me of Jackson Osei Bonsu after the Selcuk Aydin fight when Jackson was shot fodder to Randall Bailey & Horta. You actually make quite the argument in defense of Ouma. I should Youtube his fights some more.

                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  You are trying to make GGG look bad with your ridiculous, bias, grading system. If a guy is rated in the top 5 or 10 fighters in the world at 160 then he is class A not C or D. C or D would be for fighters not even in the top 50. GGG has defeated many fighters rated in the top 10 at middleweight when he fought them. Rubio, Murray, Geale and many more were top 10 when he fought them but were often dropped from the top 10 AFTER he knocked them out. Get to the point. If GGG is so bad then name all the 160 pounders you think can beat him. That should be good for a laugh.
                  My grading system was P4P not 160. A top ten middleweight is not necessarily a top 50 talent P4P. Anyway my breakdown is indeed biased and arbitrary. Nobody at 160 can beat Golovkin save for a miracle.

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                  • PivotandRoll
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                    Originally posted by Wolfert
                    Khomitsky was surely robbed in the Murray rematch. I'm partial to late bloomers such as Sergey, they're sort of real life versions of Stallone's Rocky.

                    Yeah love to see padded records exposed.



                    It's a matter of perception, Ouma reminded me of Jackson Osei Bonsu after the Selcuk Aydin fight when Jackson was shot fodder to Randall Bailey & Horta. You actually make quite the argument in defense of Ouma. I should Youtube his fights some more.



                    My grading system was P4P not 160. A top ten middleweight is not necessarily a top 50 talent P4P. Anyway my breakdown is indeed biased and arbitrary. Nobody at 160 can beat Golovkin save for a miracle.
                    A miracle? That's an overstatement. What if BJS could out box him at the start of the fight and move in the second half like against Eubank Jr? I agree GGG would be a huge favourite, but if Saunders came in his best shape as of yet(which has been getting better) It wouldn't be a miracle for the guy with the faster hands and better defence to pull off a win against a slow footed albeit thunderous punching champion.

                    What if Andy Lee lands his right hook?

                    What if Quillin lands his left hook?

                    All obviously not the most likely things to happen but it would be no miracle if they did.

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