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  • Originally posted by pacfan View Post
    what this all means is that usada is basically a useless testing organization when it comes to boxing. mayweather has been getting away with doping for years.

    this is the level playing field he was talking about. prevent the opponent from juicing, while he can all he wants without fear of getting caught.

    this is evil.

    that's why massive investigations should be pursued.

    And you're willing to accept that the same could be true for Pacquiao too, right? Just because he never failed a test doesn't mean he wasn't/isn't currently on PEDs, right?

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    • Originally posted by Marvellous1 View Post
      The same way Pacquiao fans were against accusations without proof.... until Marquez cleaned Pacquiao's clock. Then the accusations without proof came out in force.

      I agree with you, the laughs (and the hypocrites) are everywhere.
      It's called having a taste of ur own Shiiet. Doesn't taste good does it?

      For years the floyd fans accused manny with no proof and now that the Shiiet they were dishing out is coming back to them right straight in their mouth, now their talking about pac fans being hypocrites lmao!!!

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      • http://www.fighthype.com/news/articl...medium=twitter



        ANGEL HEREDIA CLARIFIES HE'S NOT WORKING WITH FLOYD MAYWEATHER: "I'M NOT INVOLVED AND I'M NOT WORKING WITH FLOYD"By*Ben Thompson*| March 21, 2015

        "I don't want to take any credit and I don't want to be penalized for any result or any outcome that might happen, before or after the fight, when I'm not involved and I'm not working with Floyd. If he wanted to do it [work with me], it's too late already. It [the fight] is already four weeks away. I'm not going to take a chance at that. Team Heredia is about performance, not about money," stated world-class strength & conditioning coach Angel Heredia, who set the record straight regarding rumors that he's working with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather ahead of his highly-anticipated May 2 mega-fight with 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao. Check out what else he had to say!

        BT: Angel, I'm not sure where the rumor started, but it seems like more and more people are trying to say that you're working with Floyd Mayweather simply because you put some tweets out supporting TMT. Can you just set the record straight? You're not working with Floyd, but you are working with his fighter, Badou Jack, correct?

        AH: That's correct, yeah. Jack is a client of mine. As far as I know, Badou Jack is TMT. I haven't even been approached professionally about working with Floyd. If he wanted to hire me, he'd have to talk to me and sit down with me as a professional. If he wanted to talk, he could call Gaby Penagaricano, Cotto's advisor; that's my lawyer. Let's just make it clear, Alex [Ariza] consulted me as a colleague for some strength conditioning exercises. He called me up, we had a meeting, we sat down, and we exchanged information. I really wanted to [work with Floyd] and I was very happy to possibly be part of his team. And of course, I'm always happy to help Alex Ariza with whatever questions, as any colleague would do. I'm happy to do that, but I'm not going to sit here and take heat from people asking me all these questions when I have no idea what's going on. I don't want to take any credit and I don't want to be penalized for any result or any outcome that might happen, before or after the fight, when I'm not involved and I'm not working with Floyd. If he wanted to do it [work with me], it's too late already. It [the fight] is already four weeks away. I'm not going to take a chance at that. Team Heredia is about performance, not about money.

        I could've helped him. Obviously Alex knows that, but if he doesn't want to do it or he wants to believe other people, then let him do that. Like I said, Team Heredia is not involved, so I'm not gonna take no positive credit or negative credit. We don't want to be responsible for any outcome or result when we're not responsible. We are going to focus on Jessie Vargas, we're going to focus on Badou Jack, and three other fighters we got right there, all of them fighting for world titles. I got [Marvin] Sonsona, Jessie Vargas, I got Badou Jack, I got [Juan Manuel] Marquez; I got plenty other fighters. All I want to say is Floyd's a good fighter. If he believes his system is going to be enough to beat Pacquiao, then let him believe that. If Alex can help him, which I think he should, then let him think that. That's the end of it. No more conversation on that.



        [*Follow Ben Thompson on Twitter*@fighthype*]

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        • Originally posted by Bobby Shmurda View Post
          http://www.fighthype.com/news/articl...medium=twitter



          ANGEL HEREDIA CLARIFIES HE'S NOT WORKING WITH FLOYD MAYWEATHER: "I'M NOT INVOLVED AND I'M NOT WORKING WITH FLOYD"By*Ben Thompson*| March 21, 2015

          "I don't want to take any credit and I don't want to be penalized for any result or any outcome that might happen, before or after the fight, when I'm not involved and I'm not working with Floyd. If he wanted to do it [work with me], it's too late already. It [the fight] is already four weeks away. I'm not going to take a chance at that. Team Heredia is about performance, not about money," stated world-class strength & conditioning coach Angel Heredia, who set the record straight regarding rumors that he's working with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather ahead of his highly-anticipated May 2 mega-fight with 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao. Check out what else he had to say!

          BT: Angel, I'm not sure where the rumor started, but it seems like more and more people are trying to say that you're working with Floyd Mayweather simply because you put some tweets out supporting TMT. Can you just set the record straight? You're not working with Floyd, but you are working with his fighter, Badou Jack, correct?

          AH: That's correct, yeah. Jack is a client of mine. As far as I know, Badou Jack is TMT. I haven't even been approached professionally about working with Floyd. If he wanted to hire me, he'd have to talk to me and sit down with me as a professional. If he wanted to talk, he could call Gaby Penagaricano, Cotto's advisor; that's my lawyer. Let's just make it clear, Alex [Ariza] consulted me as a colleague for some strength conditioning exercises. He called me up, we had a meeting, we sat down, and we exchanged information. I really wanted to [work with Floyd] and I was very happy to possibly be part of his team. And of course, I'm always happy to help Alex Ariza with whatever questions, as any colleague would do. I'm happy to do that, but I'm not going to sit here and take heat from people asking me all these questions when I have no idea what's going on. I don't want to take any credit and I don't want to be penalized for any result or any outcome that might happen, before or after the fight, when I'm not involved and I'm not working with Floyd. If he wanted to do it [work with me], it's too late already. It [the fight] is already four weeks away. I'm not going to take a chance at that. Team Heredia is about performance, not about money.

          I could've helped him. Obviously Alex knows that, but if he doesn't want to do it or he wants to believe other people, then let him do that. Like I said, Team Heredia is not involved, so I'm not gonna take no positive credit or negative credit. We don't want to be responsible for any outcome or result when we're not responsible. We are going to focus on Jessie Vargas, we're going to focus on Badou Jack, and three other fighters we got right there, all of them fighting for world titles. I got [Marvin] Sonsona, Jessie Vargas, I got Badou Jack, I got [Juan Manuel] Marquez; I got plenty other fighters. All I want to say is Floyd's a good fighter. If he believes his system is going to be enough to beat Pacquiao, then let him believe that. If Alex can help him, which I think he should, then let him think that. That's the end of it. No more conversation on that.



          [*Follow Ben Thompson on Twitter*@fighthype*]
          Doesn't matter, bro. These people have already gotten their narrative for this fight. Anything that doesn't fit the agenda will be ignored and dismissed.

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          • Originally posted by Evol View Post
            It's called having a taste of ur own Shiiet. Doesn't taste good does it?

            For years the floyd fans accused manny with no proof and now that the Shiiet they were dishing out is coming back to them right straight in their mouth, now their talking about pac fans being hypocrites lmao!!!
            The difference is Mayweather has never refused testing and never made excuses for why he couldn't get blood drawn.

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            • Originally posted by jcpryor View Post
              Doesn't matter, bro. These people have already gotten their narrative for this fight. Anything that doesn't fit the agenda will be ignored and dismissed.
              I know. Kinda sad. Doesn't get any clearer than that. The fact Floyd actually turned down his services. Lol but whatever.

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              • Originally posted by Bolopunch68 View Post
                Of course Pacquiao fans were against it. I have been asking for an evidence of Manny is or was doping and none so far.

                Marquez KOd him is part of the sport, you fight one of the best and in his case 4 times, you're bound to lose or worse get KTFO which he did. My take on that ko was, they've met 3 times prior to that KO6. Marquez been landing those same shots cleanly on Manny over and over again but never put Manny on his butt. Once Memo became his conditioning coach he suddenly put Manny on his shorts with the same punch he landed over and over on their previous 3 fights and ultimately put him to sleep?

                On their previous 3 fights, Marquez skin was clear from big ASS pimples, at age 40, he's muscles was more define and shows a lot of those big ASS pimples? Those are evidence my friend, evidence of side effects.
                The two times Pacquiao got dropped, Marquez caught him with barely or no time to brace himself properly. They were perfect shots, practiced with the intention to do what BOTH fighters were going in to do..... knock out their opponent.

                Pacquiao couldn't put Morales down in the first fight then in rematches he can devastate him. Different fight, different time for opponents.

                Until Marquez fails tests, you only have speculation. The same as the moronic "head size" and "eye test" evidence, my friend.

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                • Originally posted by Marvellous1 View Post
                  Meaning it was autologous, right? I was confirming this with you as you're the expert and I'm the novice on this topic.

                  The effects of autologous treatments are a potential increaser in the red blood cell count. The side-effects of it are more than detrimental. If Mayweather has used this for a long time, I'm surprised he's as successful as he is.
                  First of how you come up with I'm the expert shows you're offended by what I posted.

                  Secondly, I didn't know Mayweather have a tumor.

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                  • Originally posted by Evol View Post
                    It's called having a taste of ur own Shiiet. Doesn't taste good does it?

                    For years the floyd fans accused manny with no proof and now that the Shiiet they were dishing out is coming back to them right straight in their mouth, now their talking about pac fans being hypocrites lmao!!!
                    Well it isn't my "shiiet" because I haven't ever accused Pacquiao of anything but walking from a fight over testing. The accusations were ignorant but the request for testing wasn't (if done correctly). You know my position on the way Team Pacquiao reacted to it. It just think it was all wrong and created their own stink.

                    I don't see you or anyone can rejoice in acting as foolish as the fool they're trying to ridicule. Imitating ignorance isn't something to be proud of.
                    Last edited by Marvellous1; 03-21-2015, 02:51 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      Can drinking water really help your piss from being detected? Ain't like PEDS are Marijuana. Also anyone is capable of cheating Floyd and Pacquiao included. So if blood and urine tests are useless then Manny can cheat too because Manny has worked with Ariza and Ariza knew Heredia then also. Not to mention Manny is working with a busted steroid cheat. You guys cannot be taken seriously with your double standards and B.S.
                      Dude, don't twist what I said. I didn't said anything about drinking water will help you from piss being detected. Did you watch the video or not? Do you understand what was being said on that video?

                      This is not rocket science my friend. Don't put it in a microwave.

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