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Originally posted by Suavecito80
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Definitely but Manny is not the most patient fighter. JMM feinted Manny to the point of obvious frustration. Floyd is even more patient than JMM. -
BOTH sides have held this fight hostage for years, that is common knowledge. Both guys have acted like Prima Donna's in the back-and-forth.Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
And both guys are going to put up a great fight and it will be close, either way. With this much media attention and surrealistic magnitude, both are going to want to bring their best and it will be back and forth at times. Pac's left hand is going to crack through Floyd's guard and his body punches will nail Floyd just as Floyd's counters will catch Pac coming in.
There is too much sports media and world media attention for these guys not to have adrenaline bursting out and both will rise to the occasion because of this magnitude. Floyd will be fighting his heart out to make something happen when he is being cornered and Pac will be fighting his heart out when Floyd catches him coming in. It will be a great fight, period. It will not be dominated by either guy. Both guys are going to know they were in a fighter after 12 rounds.Last edited by richardt; 03-17-2015, 04:12 PM.Comment
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LOL...Originally posted by richardt View Post
This fight could have happened back in 2010 if it weren't for the fact that Pacquiao had not yet gotten over his fear of needles. Arum and Co have been playing musical chairs and fighting Floyd leftovers ever since. Pacquiao's cut needed to heal, Arum needed to build his stadium, etc. Excuse after excuse after excuse and you *******s lap it up like a wine head trying to get the last from the bottom of his bottle.Comment
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Most amateurs know to protect themselves at all times.Originally posted by Don Mac View PostComment
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"Arum also indicated he would like Pacquiao to get through the Hatton fight before going up against Mayweather saying I want Mayweather to stay there (in retirement) until September. The longer he's out the more rusty he'll be."Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
December 16th 2008
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You forgot to mention the number of ways Floyd hindered the fight which shows your bias. Anyone who is not biased and even biased fans can see how Floyd put up roadblocks. Obviously you lack objectivity by not seeing both sides. Speaking of "lap up" did you lap up all the I'm on vacation crap and I wont do business with Arum or Pac got JMM and Bradley problems??? And anyone who is over 15 years old doesn't use the term leftovers because history is littered with top guys fighting after other top guys beat them, including Floyd who has fought Pac leftovers, Judah was Tyzu's and Baldomir's leftovers, and Baldomir was a leftover from many losses and Maidana was Alexander and Kotelnik's leftovers and Guerrero was Diaz's leftovers and Ortiz, Mitchel, and Gatti were leftovers too. Anyone using the leftover crap really sounds like a child who is new to the sport. Every single year, decade, century throughout boxing is fighters fighting "leftovers". Don't act like it is something new. Drop the leftovers talk if you want to sound like you are over 15 years old unless you are not.Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View PostLast edited by richardt; 03-17-2015, 04:53 PM.Comment
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What road block? Manny asking for a 30 day cut off then Floyd negotiating it down to a 14 day cut off to make the fight with Pacquiao only for Manny to refuse it? You guys fail to realize that for all of this talk about giving blood, needles, Mayweather being bigger so it helps him became official lies when years later Manny agreed to the same testing he turned down 5 years ago because apparently what bothered him then does not now.Originally posted by richardt View PostComment
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Both are to blame and you know it. This is COMMON industry knowledge. Did you slurp up the I'm on vacation or I don't do business with Arum or Pac got JMM and Bradley problems or a host of other lame things Floyd said??? It goes both ways. I have already in the past mentioned the areas Pac was to blame, did you mention the areas where Floyd was to blame? If not, I have no need for further discussions with a person who is railroaded with bias. Both sides acted like Prima Donna's and anyone who cant see this is blind as hell.Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostLast edited by richardt; 03-17-2015, 05:02 PM.Comment
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No it is not common knowledge because Pacquiao walked away from the fight in their primes over a 14 day cut off of random blood testing. This was the only official negotiation next to the one that got the fight signed and both times Mayweather was down. Fight should have happened in 2010 after being negotiated in 2009. How was asking for a test a road block when Roach said it was not a problem, only to become one later? I am proud of both of them for finally making the fight happen but come on. How is Floyd to blame for Manny walking away from the fight 5 years ago? Everybody is saying "fight should have happened 5 years ago when they were primed". Why didn't the fight happen then? Say it!Originally posted by richardt View PostComment
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It is common knowledge. Put up a poll of who is to blame with A) Floyd, B) Pac, and C) both guys and you will see the obvious that it is common knowledge. It doesn't matter how many negotiations there were, Floyd also chopped down the fight as well. If someone 5 years ago demands something from you that he has never demanded from anyone else, you would take that as an insult. That's what Pac did, he responded emotionally instead of not responding to the accusations. But Floyd has a number of times shot the fight down. Both are to blame, that is clear as day. Both guys have huge egos, that is what has gotten in the way of the fight a number of times. If you cant see that, put up a poll and you will see that, or if not, don't bother responding, you are not objective enough to see both sides of the story.Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostLast edited by richardt; 03-17-2015, 05:14 PM.Comment
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