Comments Thread For: Roach: Mayweather Not a Good Person, Bad Role Model!

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honestly i cant act like i would be surprised if this deal was already agreed upon years ago and they just wanted to make the most money possible and then finally make this fight in time for there to be a rematch if needed and what not

Yep. Back in 2009 when talks started, both camps knew it was in their best interest to just keep talking trash about one another and eventually they would keep building the hype then cash out at the end of the line.

Not saying Floyd will lose or win, but he has done a remarkable job of marketing himself as an undefeated fighter. That undefeated record no longer has any marketing value. They milked it until it no longer served it's purpose.

It's no surprise that at the end of his career, he's putting it on the line for the richest sporting event in history. Win, lose... don't matter, he's getting the biggest payday of all times.

As for Manny, win or lose his style sells itself and the think tanks at Top Rank have done a brilliant job making him even more valuable after getting KO'd by JMM.

Let's also remember how Floyd Sr recites these crazy poems that at times end with a line reminding the fans to not hesitate and buy their tickets asap.

[GRUSTLER]

Do not mistake habits with personality.

Don't mistake being a hypocrite with a person that actually has some common sense.

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Don't mistake being a hypocrite with a person that actually has some common sense.

Did you know that even the quotes you post on forums reflect and reveal overall the negativity in your personality?

The first two words of your quote are positively in the negative. "Don't" and "mistake". These are both negatives. Neuro linguistic sciences and research has proven that opening a expression with a negative word like, "don't" indicates an individual with a negative mindset.

The positive person would have written something more like, "Remember to know how to tell the difference between a hypocrite and a person with common sense" or something to that effect.

And sharing this little tie bit of positive mental attitude with you is my good deed of the day.

[jas]

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BERNARD HOPKINS: "FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS NO TOUGH GUY"
By Ben Thompson | November 06, 2009
"Hey, listen, at the end of the day, when I look at guys, and some rappers that I ain't going to mention, that talk about gangsta, talk about street, talk about going to jail, talk about being hard on the street, that remind of Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather is no tough guy. And Floyd Mayweather can tell you about, and Ellerbe can tell you about when a couple of guys came up in Top Rank's gym and they was taking two to three weeks to scrub blood out of the stains of the carpet that was in there. Where was the gangsta then? See, they know I know...What happened in that ring after the fight was over, see, Shane Mosley's personality is a little different than mine. I went street and I went gangsta and I threw a little corporate in there and I did what a promoter's supposed to do. I shoved Shane in the middle and said, 'Come on dawg," stated future Hall of Famer Bernard Hopkins as he spoke about Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s reluctance to fight Shane Mosley. Hopkins was a guest on the OnTheGrind Boxing podcast yesterday and shared his thoughts on a number of subjects, including the Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley, Roy Jones Jr., James Toney and much more.

On his own reputation of ruining careers...

"How many fighters that fought Bernard Hopkins and after...was the same fighter? And I can tell you one that's not the same fighter, and I warned everybody, Jermain Taylor. And they paid a major price. Listen, this ain't no 'kick the man while he's down.' I'm just giving everybody a point of what Bernard Hopkins do. My friend Al Haymon, who represents Floyd, who represents Paul Williams, who represents most of the top fighters right now, he said, 'Bernard Hopkins will never fight Paul Williams because he don't beat fighters, he destroys them.'"

On Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s reluctance to fight the best competition...

"You mentioned Floyd Mayweather. Yes, he could go down as one of the pound-for-pound greats of this era, yet, he hasn't fought guys that I would love to see him fight. I would love to see him fight Shane. I would love to seen him fight Margarito when he didn't want to fight Margarito. You remember that. I would like to see him fight Paul Williams. Hey, listen, at the end of the day, when I look at guys, and some rappers that I ain't going to mention, that talk about gangsta, talk about street, talk about going to jail, talk about being hard on the street, that remind of Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather is no tough guy. And Floyd Mayweather can tell you about, and Ellerbe can tell you about when a couple of guys came up in Top Rank's gym and they was taking two to three weeks to scrub blood out of the stains of the carpet that was in there. Where was the gangsta then? See, they know I know."

"I made that happen in that ring with Shane Mosley. Everybody knew it and it was no big deal...when I see something that's not right, dawg, I will speak about it no matter who it hurts. I get their attention. I know how to get the peoples attention. I will say things that people will never think about saying."

"At the end of the day, Floyd didn't fight a lot of people and one of them is Margarito. And you know that was well-published. They knew he was too big. They knew he was punching. And Floyd, listen, who knows? He might have beat him, but we'll never know. Is Floyd a fraud? No! He is cut from a cloth of uncles that made their legacy in boxing. We know he can fight, but at the end of the day, beating Marquez doesn't give me an erection. I'm keeping it real."

On what prompted Shane Mosley to confront Mayweather after his fight with Marquez...

"What happened in that ring after the fight was over, see, Shane Mosley's personality is a little different than mine. I went street and I went gangsta and I threw a little corporate in there and I did what a promoter's supposed to do. I shoved Shane in the middle and said, 'Come on dawg!' See, when you take those guys light, because that's what they want, the attention, as soon as you interfere...at the end of the day, Shane has his personality, I have my personality. I know when to be the promoter. How many times has Don King put a battery in everybody's back? How many times you seen Bob Arum, with his own style, instigate a fight? This is what I do."

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BERNARD HOPKINS: "FLOYD MAYWEATHER IS NO TOUGH GUY"
By Ben Thompson | November 06, 2009
"Hey, listen, at the end of the day, when I look at guys, and some rappers that I ain't going to mention, that talk about gangsta, talk about street, talk about going to jail, talk about being hard on the street, that remind of Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather is no tough guy. And Floyd Mayweather can tell you about, and Ellerbe can tell you about when a couple of guys came up in Top Rank's gym and they was taking two to three weeks to scrub blood out of the stains of the carpet that was in there. Where was the gangsta then? See, they know I know...What happened in that ring after the fight was over,

Yeah, and earlier tonight on HBO the most gangster thing we saw on TV was Kovalev using delicate technique to remind B-Hop which punches he used in their fight to beat down his 50 year old a$$. Then, like a true bitc#, B-Hop gave Kovalev a hug thanking him for reminding him of the a$$ whopping.

[jas]

Yeah, and earlier tonight on HBO the most gangster thing we saw on TV was Kovalev using delicate technique to remind B-Hop which punches he used in their fight to beat down his 50 year old a$$. Then, like a true bitc#, B-Hop gave Kovalev a hug thanking him for reminding him of the a$$ whopping.

Lol staying classy I see

Just embarrassing yourself

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Lol staying classy I see

Just embarrassing yourself

Embarrassed? That's impossible. The only times I get embarrassed is when I get an erection when I wear jogging pants and I know for a fact nobody can see that so therefore embarrassing myself here is impossible.

Did you see the fight?

They were backstage. B-Hop paid Kovalev a visit in his locker room and there's nothing more to explain.

[davetheone]

Bad role model?

Hmmmmm?
Uses PEDS? No
Pays his taxes? Yes

Works hard, Dedicated? Yes
Takes care of his kids? Yes

We may not like his personality, but people loved Ali, he dodged going to war for this country, ridiculed his opponents before fighting them, self worshipped.

The truth is racists want Floyd to be looked down upon, because a black man shouldn't be that good.

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Bad role model?

Hmmmmm?
Uses PEDS? No
Pays his taxes? Yes

Works hard, Dedicated? Yes
Takes care of his kids? Yes

We may not like his personality, but people loved Ali, he dodged going to war for this country, ridiculed his opponents before fighting them, self worshipped.

The truth is racists want Floyd to be looked down upon, because a black man shouldn't be that good.

Hey Bruh... this ain't the 1960's no more. The truth has changed and the truth is that racists want Manny to be looked down upon because an asian man shouldn't be that good.

Of course, I wouldn't expect an old fart like you who still protests the Viet Nam war to be aware that an Kenyan is in the oval office.

[komandante]

Floyd Mayweather's good image is just fake. Visa denied in Australia.