"Krusher" Kovalev vs RJJ@ 168-175lbs/12-12.5 Stone. Who wins?

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  • robertzimmerman
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    #191
    Originally posted by Cruisin'
    good fight but i think roy pays for his lack of fundamentals and gets caught

    kovalev is not someone you could play games with or psych out
    Roy could have gotten caught.

    But who had the more variation?

    Who was faster?

    Who was harder to hit?

    Why couldn't Roy have psyched him out? It's not beyond the realms of possibility. There's no telling how Kov would have reacted had Roy repeatedly tagged him with power shots. And I believe that Roy could have done that. Kov seems easy enough to hit to me. It could well have made him hesitant. Roy's speed, skills and power were extraordinary. I think it's possible that Roy could have backed him up and stopped him from him pouring forward.

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    • BOMB ZQUAD
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      #192
      Lmao, these same people saying Roy will win were probably thinking Hopkins will clear Kovalev or even worse thought Cleverly would beat him

      They underestimate Kovalev wayyyy too much, they probably think Ward will beat him too

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        #193
        Never said it was outside the realms of possibility. Just my intuition. Kovalev isn't hard to tap for points but he's seemed extremely hard to trick into eating a real shot and has exceptional spatial awareness. 60/40 fight imo.

        Roy has a chance in any fight, he's just one of those guys who makes his own opportunities from thin air and is hard as **** to time, but so is Kovalev. A shame we will never get to see such a classic US/Russia matchup.
        Last edited by ////; 08-31-2015, 01:24 PM.

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          #194
          Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc
          Lmao, these same people saying Roy will win were probably thinking Hopkins will clear Kovalev or even worse thought Cleverly would beat him

          They underestimate Kovalev wayyyy too much, they probably think Ward will beat him too
          Right, because both a 50 year old Bernard Hopkins and Nathan Cleverly, were at the same level as a 25 year old version of Roy?

          Ha!

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            #195
            Originally posted by Cruisin'
            Never said it was outside the realms of possibility. Just my intuition. Kovalev isn't hard to tap for points but he's seemed extremely hard to trick into eating a real shot and has exceptional spatial awareness. 60/40 fight imo.

            Roy has a chance in any fight, he's just one of those guys who makes his own opportunities from thin air and is hard as **** to time, but so is Kovalev. A shame we will never get to see such a classic US/Russia matchup.
            I respect your opinion.

            Again, this would have been an extremely dangerous fight for Roy. But I don't think it would have been hard for Roy to time him with something big. The Pascal fight highlighted that. Pascal got through with at least 4 wild overhand rights with no technique. He was just winging away in desperation and they found the target. He's also been caught off balance and has been dropped before.

            All we need now is a time machine.

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              #196
              Originally posted by robertzimmerman
              I respect your opinion.

              Again, this would have been an extremely dangerous fight for Roy. But I don't think it would have been hard for Roy to time him with something big. The Pascal fight highlighted that. Pascal got through with at least 4 wild overhand rights with no technique. He was just winging away in desperation and they found the target. He's also been caught off balance and has been dropped before.

              All we need now is a time machine.
              You do realize Kovalev wasn't very focused for the Pascal fight right? He had a newborn baby and wasn't prepared for this fight like his other fights. He still proved everyone he has a chin(taking Pascal's shots) and he knocked down Pascal(Pascal was never knocked down in his career before Kovalev). You'll see for yourself when they rematch

              50 year old hopkins who's a freak of a nature and takes spectacular care of himself? might be 50, but in reality he is as healthy as a 38 year old. Ok, Hopkins was old, but we've never seen anyone make Hopkins look like a joke for 12 ****ing rounds... 12, not a single round hopkins won lmao

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                #197
                This thread can't be serious, Roy Kos him in 5

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                  #198
                  Originally posted by ThatLeftaMarc
                  You do realize Kovalev wasn't very focused for the Pascal fight right? He had a newborn baby and wasn't prepared for this fight like his other fights. He still proved everyone he has a chin(taking Pascal's shots) and he knocked down Pascal(Pascal was never knocked down in his career before Kovalev). You'll see for yourself when they rematch

                  50 year old hopkins who's a freak of a nature and takes spectacular care of himself? might be 50, but in reality he is as healthy as a 38 year old. Ok, Hopkins was old, but we've never seen anyone make Hopkins look like a joke for 12 ****ing rounds... 12, not a single round hopkins won lmao
                  Come on, I'm not buying that. Pascal threw 4-5 overhand rights that were wild with little technique, and they all landed. What about when he was dropped by Caparello? Roy wouldn't have found it hard to tag him.

                  Hopkins is unique. But you simply can't compare a 50 year old Hopkins to a 25 year old version of Roy. Kovalev had zero respect for Hopkins's offense. But Roy was much faster, harder to hit, and he possessed a great variety of shots that included genuine one punch knockout power in each hand. It would have been a completely different challenge.

                  With regards to a Pascal rematch, who wants to see that? Not me. What would be the point?
                  Last edited by robertzimmerman; 08-31-2015, 05:40 PM.

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                    #199
                    Originally posted by Cruisin'
                    good fight but i think roy pays for his lack of fundamentals and gets caught

                    kovalev is not someone you could play games with or psych out
                    Pretty much this. Kovalev is sadly very underrated on NSB, he has extremely high ring IQ and is a master boxer would would catch Roy all day.

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                      #200
                      A prime Roy would eat up Kovalev. I have no doubt about that.
                      If it's present day Roy then Kovalev wins

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