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  • #81
    He simply stating the obvious. Floyd can be a slow starter, if Pac isn't having strong rounds when he should be at the time he should be, he's in trouble. Really important to win the rounds that he is expected to win, almost everyone believes that to be early on

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    • #82
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      The problem with Pacquiao is if Mayweather doesn't engage or push the action aggressively Pacquiao is going to lung in swinging wild and get his ass countered. Floyd is not going to chase Manny around to make himself vulnerable to his speed. Floyd is going to keep distance between them in the early rounds and feel out Manny and Manny is going to keep his distance because he will be baffled on how to initiate the action and just going to jump in off balance arms swinging and Floyd going to mop him up like a biscuit with a big plate of gravy.

      As long as Floyd don't get overly aggressive he can control the pace from round 1 to 12 because Manny don't have no inside fighting game either. If Manny was to some how pull it off I would give him the utmost respect but due to the style, ring IQ and advantages I would have to be really sympathetic to pick against Mayweather. Floyd by domination. He is going to treat Manny like the lil guy watch and see.
      1st Pac is the little guy, you don't think JR would face Pac if he were a full fledged Welter weight do you, lol !!!

      2nd, Here's where the fun comes in,

      YOU SAID:

      ODH would whup Pac
      Hatton would whup Pac
      Cotto would whup Pac
      Mosley would whup Pac,

      You were right only once out of many fights.

      YOU will NOT be right again, come May 2 when the Pacific Storm touches land

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      • #83
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
        Those are facts but according to Roach...... Floyd would have probably beat Manny 5 years ago doe! Go that a way.
        according to roach Floyd is a chicken so take both 4 whatever they are...

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        • #84
          Originally posted by mneronava2k View Post
          I have to say: I'm blown and disappointed that people keep acting like Floyd has enough pop to keep Manny off him. All this talk about Floyd's right and Manny not being able to handle a right is nonsense. Floyd doesn't have the power to keep Manny off of him. Before Marquez knocked out Manny we all knew Manny had great whiskers. But since Marquez now he's damaged goods? I don't think so. Rios, Bradley, and Algieri have all stopped guys more recently than May. (I don't necessairly believe that is some sort of logic, but with the way logic around here--it's worth mentioning)

          What I'm saying is: I'm super suprised that a lot of you guys think May can hold off and manage Mannys power.

          I normally think Manny fans are the dumbest fans in sports, but you May fans are giving them a run for their money
          I just can't believe that you think he doesn't.

          I bet you my fkn life, against 2c of yours, that Mayweather has more than enough power to keep Pacquiao honest, and that no fighter ever, around his weight-class, ever walks through his punches..... EVER !

          Deal ?

          You can kill me and fakk my wife if I lose..... and if you lose, I want your 2c immediately

          Tell me this..... in your opinion, why was Canelo completely unable to walk through Mayweathers punches, despite being a beast who weighed 15-20 lbs heavier?

          CLUELESS !

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          • #85
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            But Bradley don't hit harder than Mayweather and to say so would be nonsense just because he wobbled Pacquiao. A sucker punch is punching somebody from behind when they don't see it. I don't want to get into this nonsense. The fight is coming on fast because time don't stand still and we will see what both fighters bring to the table come fight night.
            Bradley said on 24/7 going into the fight that he knew he wouldn't win a decision again against pacquiao, so his goal was to knock Manny out, which actually seemed to be a better strategy than he had in the first fight. Bradley was way more bulky the second fight, and was loading up on every punch, and hit Manny flush on the chin as hard as he could which lifted Manny off his feet but didn't knock him down. Marquez was on roids big time, which is why Marquez couldn't knock him down any other fight. Floyd isn't going to be hitting as hard as Bradley was hitting pacquiao. Much like mayweather, Bradley fights a technical fight usually so he doesn't go for the Ko, doesn't mean he doesn't have Ko power. His only goal was to knock Manny out and he hit him with everything and still couldn't knock him down. Same with algiero, he said that was also his goal but he didn't even get anywhere close. Pacquiao does not have to worry about mayweather, unless mayweather did in fact hire memo, because you need roids to knock Manny out, especially a health first fighter like mayweather with brittle hands.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              Maidana and Pacquiao are two completely different fighters. First, Pac weighs 148lbs on fight night, Maidana weighs 160lbs. Maidana can do what he did to Floyd because of the weight disparity and that is Maidana's style anyway, rough up his opponent and throw headshots wildly. This is not the case with Pacquiao at ALL. Pacquiao and Mayweather are around the same weight, Pacquiao will not rough anyone up. On the contrary, if you hold or grab Pacquiao, he will stare at the ref with a concerned face like he is about to die. Pac can't fight inside to save his life, Maidana gladly welcomes inside fighting.

              If you are looking at Floyd vs Maidana to measure Pacquiao's success vs Floyd, or to measure where Floyd will fail vs Pacquiao, then you are going to be dead wrong in your predcition. You can not compare the two at all. Pac just doesn't have that rough mentality, or big size to put Floyd on the defensive like Maidana did. You would have a much better post if you had bring up the Corley and Judah fights where Floyd got stunned by them.
              no doubt pac and maidan are nothing alike... the comparsion (somewhat) was solely on their abilities to get at a fighter on the move..it would be dumb to use maidana for what pac will do...infact, there are more chances of Floyd trying to go the maidana route than pac doing the same, fighting on the inside..i think atleast

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              • #87
                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                Quite a few of those attributes you mention don't make me think of someone trying to walk someone down. For example, defense?
                yes defense


                Mike Tyson, Joe Frazier, Floyd Mayweather, Roberto Duran, Ray Leonard, Roy Jones, Pernell Whitaker, Tommy Hearns, James Toney and others had good defense moving forward and cutting off the ring

                You must don't know much about boxing.... Cutting off the ring is a skill every fighter should have. Its learned in the gym. Attributes are just attributes. The ability to execute moves or a game plan is not based on Height, Reach...its a skilled taught in the gym

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by puga View Post
                  according to roach Floyd is a chicken so take both 4 whatever they are...
                  Floyd is fighting Manny so the chicken statement is debunked. The fight didn't happen 5 years ago so could be some truth to what Roach is stating. Now he feels Floyd is ripe for the taking because he thinks his legs are shot so you analyzed the situation wrong because Roach actually gives Manny a better chance now then he did 5 years ago. Go that a way.....

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                  • #89
                    Not happening. Mayweather usually wins the first rounds. He usually wins every round, but Round 8.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      Those are facts but according to Roach...... Floyd would have probably beat Manny 5 years ago doe! Go that a way.
                      I guess that you also believe this:

                      Roach: "We’re gonna kick Mayweather’s asS"

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