Comments Thread For: Mayweather: Pacquiao Fight is Happening Because of Me!

[megadeth]

It was random blood testing, he had no problem with urine testing. Regardless, whose fault was it for the next five years after Manny said he'd do them? I know there was one year after the Marquez KO that Floyd didn't look bad avoiding Manny questions in interviews.

I don't now, you tell me!

"Moments after Mayweather was granted the continuance, Arum changed his tune."

"We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone.

"I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week?"

A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope."
Dan Rafel Jan 2012

By the way, other than SAY he wanted the fight in interviews once in a while, what did Pac do to get the fight made?

[Evol]

No he just stopped the fight from being made at the very best possible time it could;ve because of random testing. Wonder why you don't bother scrutinizing Pac's words the way you do Floyds!

how did he stopped the fight?? he never said i wont fight floyd if i have to be tested randomly. pac was actually trying to compromise by negotiating a cut off date. floyd on the other hand wont even entertain the thought of co-promoting. floyd straight out said "I WILL NEVER WORK WITH ARUM AGAIN". so take that how u want.

[megadeth]

fights signed!

Just throwing that out there

That part doesn't matter. One they are proven wrong with their "Floyd is scared of Pac" and "Floyd would NEVER fight Pac" garbage, they just come up with new excuses to run him down.

[megadeth]

how did he stopped the fight?? he never said i wont fight floyd if i have to be tested randomly. pac was actually trying to compromise by negotiating a cut off date. floyd on the other hand wont even entertain the thought of co-promoting. floyd straight out said "I WILL NEVER WORK WITH ARUM AGAIN". so take that how u want.

No they just walked away from negotiations, right into the Clottey fight. Pac was NOT trying to compromise. You don't go from "No problem, anytime"(meaning no cutoff date) to "We need 30 day's", then get caught lying and move it down to 21 days and call that compromise. Floyd originally didn't want any cutoff date and HE gave a reasonable compromis and went to 14 days to make the fight. I don't know why you are bothering trying to argue the point now anyway when we know that, THERE WAS NO REASON TO ASK FOR A CUTOFF TO BEGIN WITH!

Why wouldn't Floyd act like that when Arum was lying about why the fight didn't get made. Then lying about negotiating with his "cutoff clock". Why wouldn't Floyd feel like Arum didn't want to make the fight? At least there is precidence for Floyd not working with Arum. He hadn't worked with him since he left TR, tried to for the Pac fight and got burnted by him again. So YOU take that how you want.

[Evol]

No they just walked away from negotiations, right into the Clottey fight. Pac was NOT trying to compromise. You don't go from "No problem, anytime"(meaning no cutoff date) to "We need 30 day's", then get caught lying and move it down to 21 days and call that compromise. Floyd originally didn't want any cutoff date and HE gave a reasonable compromis and went to 14 days to make the fight. I don't know why you are bothering trying to argue the point now anyway when we know that, THERE WAS NO REASON TO ASK FOR A CUTOFF TO BEGIN WITH!

Why wouldn't Floyd act like that when Arum was lying about why the fight didn't get made. Then lying about negotiating with his "cutoff clock". Why wouldn't Floyd feel like Arum didn't want to make the fight? At least there is precidence for Floyd not working with Arum. He hadn't worked with him since he left TR, tried to for the Pac fight and got burnted by him again. So YOU take that how you want.

yes, they did try to work out a cut off date which wasnt agreed upon.

when the first negotiating fell thru, pac never said sure no problem anytime anywhere, so this right here tells u ur lying.

so now ur using the floyd's feelings was hurt excuse because arum lied to him? let me remind u that floyd and his team accused manny of being a cheater, easy work, no skills, and then demanded pac to take a random test. so going by your logic, u dont think pac was offended also?

[megadeth]

yes, they did try to work out a cut off date which wasnt agreed upon.

when the first negotiating fell thru, pac never said sure no problem anytime anywhere, so this right here tells u ur lying.

so now ur using the floyd's feelings was hurt excuse because arum lied to him? let me remind u that floyd and his team accused manny of being a cheater, easy work, no skills, and then demanded pac to take a random test. so going by your logic, u dont think pac was offended also?

Again, we know now that there was aboslutely no need for ANY cutoff date so why are you even bothering. It's like you are absolutely incapable of holding Pac accountable for ANYTHING!

Pac didn't say it, Roach did. He is Team Pac, is he not?

What does talking trash have to do with making the fight? Did Manny and Floyd have the bad history that Floyd and Arum had? Floyd has a history of NOT working together so stop acting like it's the same thing, when it's not. Ariza AND Roach and other members of Pac's team have said that he didn't want the fight to be made previously.

[MindBat]

Some Pac fans make it sound like Pac never knew what "random" blood and urine testing meant.

It's laughable at best.

There's a reason Pac was asking for cut off dates and then delayed the entire fight only to agree to all of it in the end.

"Let the commission do their job.", they claimed.

Then Pac went ahead and used VADA to save face after Marquez landed the
"Take The Test" punch.

Now he's using USADA afterall.

[Evol]

Again, we know now that there was aboslutely no need for ANY cutoff date so why are you even bothering. It's like you are absolutely incapable of holding Pac accountable for ANYTHING!

Pac didn't say it, Roach did. He is Team Pac, is he not?

What does talking trash have to do with making the fight? Did Manny and Floyd have the bad history that Floyd and Arum had? Floyd has a history of NOT working together so stop acting like it's the same thing, when it's not. Ariza AND Roach and other members of Pac's team have said that he didn't want the fight to be made previously.

i didnt bring it up, u did so wtf are u crying for?? so now u wanna hold what other members of team pac said? u know theres a long list of what roger and sr said about pac too right? LOL

so floyd accusing manny of being a cheater, easy money, making a racist rant on video. so all this means nothing to manny right? but bob changing his mind is what made floyd so tired and thats why floyd said he will never work with arum again right?

[Death_Adder]

Umm, yeah it was! The fight was being discussed behind the scene last year. This is why Floyd could say that he has a surprise opponent for everyone in May. Canelo had ZERO to do with it.

The negotiations were almost done b4 the heat game. They said that was a pivitol point that pushed it through. Stop making stuff up.

His surprise was that gay marriage was legalized in Nevada and he and Ellerbie were going to elope.

It had nothing to do with the fight.

"Pac got Marquez problems doe"
"Pac needs to leave Arum doe"
"Pac needs to beat Aligieri doe"
"Imma leave to Australia, I hear Europe is nice this time of year"


All of that was up until the Heat game, when Moonves, Haymon, Arum, and Roach had already been talking.

Hell that waiter that introduced Moonves to Roach had more to do with the fight initially getting made than Fraud.

[megadeth]

i didnt bring it up, u did so wtf are u crying for?? so now u wanna hold what other members of team pac said? u know theres a long list of what roger and sr said about pac too right? LOL

so floyd accusing manny of being a cheater, easy money, making a racist rant on video. so all this means nothing to manny right? but bob changing his mind is what made floyd so tired and thats why floyd said he will never work with arum again right?

Because you are trying defend Pac by saying they were trying to negotiate a cutoff date. I am saying why bother when there is was excuse for the cutoff in the first place. You are right, Pac shouldn't be held accountable for what Roach said, but, his official spokesman Koncz said almost exactly the same thing.

I am saying that Floyd was already NOT working with Arum, then he Arum was playing concerning making the fight. Not negotiating in good faith as Ariza, Roach and others have confirmed. Again, Floyd was not working with Arum to begin with but made an exception for the Pac fight. Manny had no personal interaction with Floyd. Why are you speculating on Manny's feelings being hurt when Manny never mentioned being bothered by any of these things.