Why doesn't PAC's win over Rios get as much as Floyd's over Guerrero's?!?

[Beercules]

I like Guerrero but who the **** did he beat? Bertos ****** ass.


Manny was just KTFO and everyone was like "he done doe" then schools Rios for 12 rounds.

Hectari was over here talking about Pac getting knocked out by a jab.

[arraamis]

"Rios and Guerrero are pretty much the same level"

That statement cannot be further from the truth and in all honesty, would only be made by someone trying to alter reality to fit their case.

[Reloaded]

I like Guerrero but who the **** did he beat? Bertos ****** ass.


Manny was just KTFO and everyone was like "he done doe" then schools Rios for 12 rounds.

Hectari was over here talking about Pac getting knocked out by a jab.

Berto was a undefeated WW at the time and was WC , Guerrero won in a fight of the year type performance , Guerrero was unbeaton in 7 yrs and was mandatory .

Rios had never been at WW , was coming of 2 losses to B grade JWWs , Rios is a flatfooted no skills bum .

There is no comparison , if Floyd fought Rios and Algieri he would be strung up and crucified , Manny gets a pass for anything but it wont matter on May2nd because he will get exposed .

[Dinamita 03]

I had him up by 3, I excluded all point deductions from both sides. Chaves was in control of the fight and was winning the round he got disqualified as well.

I wasn't comparing the fight, I was comparing the form of defeat (getting disqualified while up on the cards).

You missed the point where the official cards only had Chaves up by one round. With two rounds to go that's not necesarily being in control. He wasn't exactly pitching a shutout or knocking his opponent down, like Roy did. I'm fairly confident a large majority of the people scoring still had no definitive winner.

[DoktorSleepless]

Guerrero has better wins than Rios has ever had particularly at 147. He also has a better skill set. He can at least slip punches which seems foreign to Rios. Not even arguable in my view.

Rios was outboxed by Abril and Mike Alvarado and has done absolutely nothing at 147. He was on his way to a loss against Diego Chaves too. But he still manages to be overrated as hell on here.

Mike Alvarado has a win over the current lineal jr welterweight champ, Mauricio Herrera. Alvarado > Berto

[Dinamita 03]

Berto was a undefeated WW at the time and was WC , Guerrero won in a fight of the year type performance , Guerrero was unbeaton in 7 yrs and was mandatory .

Rios had never been at WW , was coming of 2 losses to B grade JWWs , Rios is a flatfooted no skills bum .

There is no comparison , if Floyd fought Rios and Algieri he would be strung up and crucified , Manny gets a pass for anything but it wont matter on May2nd because he will get exposed .

Berto Undefeated? Did you miss the Ortiz fight?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Berto Undefeated? Did you miss the Ortiz fight?

[YOU WILL LOSE]

bBerto was a undefeated WW at the time and was WC , Guerrero won in a fight of the year type performance , Guerrero was unbeaton in 7 yrs and was mandatory .

Rios had never been at WW , was coming of 2 losses to B grade JWWs , Rios is a flatfooted no skills bum .

There is no comparison , if Floyd fought Rios and Algieri he would be strung up and crucified , Manny gets a pass for anything but it wont matter on May2nd because he will get exposed .

ehhh i think youre mixing up your talking points . that was the fl0mo rationale for the ortiz fight not guerrero. how is it that he was undefeated twice

[John Locke]

You missed the point where the official cards only had Chaves up by one round. With two rounds to go that's not necesarily being in control. He wasn't exactly pitching a shutout or knocking his opponent down, like Roy did. I'm fairly confident a large majority of the people scoring still had no definitive winner.

'Official' cards have come up with a lot of scores I've disagreed with. I had him up clearly, I know a lot of others did as well. I think there was a poll on here as well about who people had winning the fight, most people voted Chaves. I thought it was a pretty easy fight to score.

[HeroBando]

"Rios and Guerrero are pretty much the same level"

That statement cannot be further from the truth and in all honesty, would only be made by someone trying to alter reality to fit their case.

Not sure whats so funny. Guerrero doesnt have a single tp 10 win at welter, and struggled mightily with noncontenders Kamegai and Aydin. Rios probably beats him h2h