Better Prospect - Verdejo or Spence?

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  • Build That Wall
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    #31
    If you KO Broner, and give mayweather a black eye, it is no question who the better prospect is.

    Spence easily

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    • Jloro
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      #32
      I think Spence I have seen more from him

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      • JmH Reborn
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        #33
        I think Verdejo is the better talent - I do think w/i five years they both will be top 10 p4p guys. I think the next wave of talent is much more exciting than this current wave. Verdejo, Spence, Loma are the future - the current crop of "top" talent like Kahn, Broner and Canelo are just average to below average guys that rose up in an era of mediocrity. This current gen are just filling a void once the old guard retires like May, Pac, Cotto, BHop, JMM etc. The guys currently are just filler until Spence, Verdejo and Loma are ready to take the reigns

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          #34
          Originally posted by JmH Reborn
          I think Verdejo is the better talent - I do think w/i five years they both will be top 10 p4p guys. I think the next wave of talent is much more exciting than this current wave. Verdejo, Spence, Loma are the future - the current crop of "top" talent like Kahn, Broner and Canelo are just average to below average guys that rose up in an era of mediocrity. This current gen are just filling a void once the old guard retires like May, Pac, Cotto, BHop, JMM etc. The guys currently are just filler until Spence, Verdejo and Loma are ready to take the reigns
          I think you're falling for the same trap others fell for with the previous crop you mentioned. The need to label unproven prospects as future greats, P4P Kings, or the "Future" when they have zero accomplishments and are facing tailor made opposition.

          There's still plenty of work to be done on both sides( Spence, Verdejo) in order to materialize into truly elite fighters. I wouldn't be comfortable ranking one over the other until I've seen them step up the competition. At this point it's simply potential, hopefully they pan out.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dinamita 03
            I think you're falling for the same trap others fell for with the previous crop you mentioned. The need to label unproven prospects as future greats, P4P Kings, or the "Future" when they have zero accomplishments and are facing tailor made opposition.

            There's still plenty of work to be done on both sides( Spence, Verdejo) in order to materialize into truly elite fighters. I wouldn't be comfortable ranking one over the other until I've seen them step up the competition. At this point it's simply potential, hopefully they pan out.
            Perhaps I'm setting a trap for myself - but these guys particularly have shown a certainly level of skillsets that seem special as opposed to the current crop of 'top' talent.

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              #36
              Originally posted by JmH Reborn
              Perhaps I'm setting a trap for myself - but these guys particularly have shown a certainly level of skillsets that seem special as opposed to the current crop of 'top' talent.
              I agree. I have not seen much of Loma, but Spence and Verdejo are looking to be something special.

              Loma's fight with Siri was ugly...

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                #37
                Originally posted by JmH Reborn
                Perhaps I'm setting a trap for myself - but these guys particularly have shown a certainly level of skillsets that seem special as opposed to the current crop of 'top' talent.
                There's so many variable that are unknown at this point though. Various intangibles that are unseen until they step into the ring against proper competition such as chin, grit, guts, adaptability,etc.

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                  #38
                  Good Puerto Rican fighters are easy to market because the PR fight fans will think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

                  But when they lose, its an epic fall from grace. Look at Juanma Lopez, perfect example.

                  Spence is light years better than Verdejo. Spence went further in the olympics. Lomachenko whooped Verdejo in the olympics I believe, and beat Valdez as well.

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                    #39
                    verdejo is, because he's younger. he's at triple aaa ball. spence is supposed to be in the majors already.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Brush My Hair
                      Good Puerto Rican fighters are easy to market because the PR fight fans will think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread.

                      But when they lose, its an epic fall from grace. Look at Juanma Lopez, perfect example.

                      Spence is light years better than Verdejo. Spence went further in the olympics. Lomachenko whooped Verdejo in the olympics I believe, and beat Valdez as well.
                      you talk a whole lotta bull****. anything you say should not be taken seriously.

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