At what point do we stop using the "GGG is being ducked" excuse?

[HeroBando]

Send him an offer he can't refuse. Send a picture on Twitter. (with the goods blacked out for legal purposes) Tag him on twitter. Instagram. Facebook. *******. Vine. Tag his promoter. Tag his manager. Tag all his handlers. Tag his girlfriend. Tag his best friend. Tag every and anyone associated with him including the leaders of the Miguel Cotto internet fan club.

Why haven't they done this? Because they're content with him fighting these top contenders you're talking about, who do nothing for him.

He's been fighting the top contenders for 3 years now. There's no one else. He literally cleaned out 160 besides the guys who are ducking him. Instead of him staying busy against guys who do NOTHING for his legacy. His team should have him move up and get him legacy fights.

Golovkin fighting top 25 MW's is cool for us fans and for his handlers.... But it does nothing for his legacy. Absolutely nothing. Not anymore. We all know he's better then them all. Hell we all know he's better then Cotto and just want him to get that belt. Move up, take legacy fights.... they at least owe GGG that for giving them all their ratings and putting money in their pockets.

At the end of the day, it's not Gennady Golovkin who sets his fights up- and its also not only him who benefits once his opponent hits the canvas and the referee stops the fight.

Again with this ridiculous suggestion, send offer he can't refuse. What's that, 20m?

[King_]

Again with this ridiculous suggestion, send offer he can't refuse. What's that, 20m?

Okay man... so Cotto's out of the question. OKAY. That's done with.


Move up. Fighting these stay-busy MW's does nothing for his legacy. It's easy for us fans at home watching on TV and his handlers and HBO who are getting paid to be happy when he's knocking out guys who are 10 levels below him talent-wise. But Gennady Golovkin isn't just fighting for money- he's a throwback fighter. He wants to be great. Give him fights that further his "greatness."

[The Big Dunn]

Canelo said he isn't moving up to 160, even against Cotto it would be 155. Draining GGG by 5 pounds... I wouldn't make that move if I was GGG, a loss would ruin his career. ESPECIALLY if it was to Canelo, at 160 he'd kill him at 155, GGG would be dead going into the ring.

You got to take risks dude. Remember my 2 favorites are Hagler and Floyd, fighters who had to beg to get quality fights. GGG is far ahead of where they were.

I think he can beat Canelo at 155. Its worth the risk. Unless Kirkland beats Canelo and then he fights him or he brings Lara up to 160.

King is right IMO, GGG has to find a new way.

[Beater_of_ass]

I don't think he'd be dead at 155. Hopkins performed at 156, and he's naturally bigger. Wasn't GGG 163/161 a week before Murray/Rubio?

You don't fight at a weight for 5-6 years and then drop 5 pounds and aren't healthy. Who cares if he isn't "dead." By losing that weight he'd have less muscle (power) less stamina, worse chin... in no way does that make GGG better. I can see though how a Canelo fan would say that beating almost the corpse of GGG and not the actual corpse of GGG is something to be proud of. Canelo is a MW, fighting at 155 for his 3rd fight now, it's not GGG it's Canelo growing a pair of nuts and manning up.

Forget GGG, just let him fight one MW, just one then we can talk about a fight with GGG.

[HeroBando]

So if HBO doesn't want to cough up that much money..... Stop staying busy against guys who do nothing for him and have him move up to further his legacy?


Is that too much for a guy who basically put the network, his promotional team and handlers on his back for the past 2.5 years? They at least owe him that. Suck it up, take one for the man himself and let the dude solidify his greatness.

Beating Taureano Johnson or Sergio Mora does absolutely nothing for him anymore. We all KNOW he's better then those guys.

Damn man you're lacking a lot of context. HBO has never made a 10m+ offer to the A sider on behalf of the other guy. Not even 5m.

Its not easy getting name opponents when even bigger, proven guys like Froch and Kovalev are publicly reluctant

[Beater_of_ass]

You got to take risks dude. Remember my 2 favorites are Hagler and Floyd, fighters who had to beg to get quality fights. GGG is far ahead of where they were.

I think he can beat Canelo at 155. Its worth the risk. Unless Kirkland beats Canelo and then he fights him or he brings Lara up to 160.

King is right IMO, GGG has to find a new way.

GGG is stuck between a rock and a hardplace, it's tough being the baddest dude on the planet. Something is going to have to give at some point, he should just keep fighting and blowing people out. Personally, I think he'll get Chavez this time.

[HeroBando]

Okay man... so Cotto's out of the question. OKAY. That's done with.


Move up. Fighting these stay-busy MW's does nothing for his legacy. It's easy for us fans at home watching on TV and his handlers and HBO who are getting paid to be happy when he's knocking out guys who are 10 levels below him talent-wise. But Gennady Golovkin isn't just fighting for money- he's a throwback fighter. He wants to be great. Give him fights that further his "greatness."

Porky Medina?

[bojangles1987]

What Golovkin is currently doing has vaulted him from an unknown to one of the rising stars in boxing, has him landing fights he could never land before, and has him on the cusp of some big money fights. I'd say his team knows what the hell they are doing.

I guarantee by this time next year, Golovkin will have been involved in a high profile fight, or at least signed to fight one. What he's doing is actually the right way to build your name and become a star, but everyone seems to have forgotten that. Mayweather did it, Pacquiao did it, everyone worth a damn has to do it Golovkin's way at some point.

[King_]

Damn man you're lacking a lot of context. HBO has never made a 10m+ offer to the A sider on behalf of the other guy. Not even 5m.

Its not easy getting name opponents when even bigger, proven guys like Froch and Kovalev are publicly reluctant

Bro. I get it. You think a Cotto fight is impossible because HBO can't afford it. That's fine. Forget about Cotto.

We're talking about a company who was able to afford paying Berto $1million to fight cab drivers. Gennady Golovkin is a fighter they've invested heavily in..... I'm sure they could muster up $750,000 or so to a top 15 SMW- who would happily accept that, to fight him.

SMW isn't exactly a money-division, besides a select few. Look at the 168lb rankings and tell me how many of those guys would decline a career- pay day against Golovkin.

[King_]

What Golovkin is currently doing has vaulted him from an unknown to one of the rising stars in boxing, has him landing fights he could never land before, and has him on the cusp of some big money fights. I'd say his team knows what the hell they are doing.

I guarantee by this time next year, Golovkin will have been involved in a high profile fight, or at least signed to fight one.

I sure hope so.


He's landing fights because he's a MW champion signed with HBO. He wasn't landing fights because he was fighting truck drivers in Germany. Not sure exactly what you're getting at. Give any talented fighter a championship belt and sign him with HBO and he'll get fights and become a "rising star" by knocking everyone out. His team didn't exactly develop some rocket-science plan.

Golovkin is a talented fighters. His performances are what's making him a star. HBO is the platform delivering the performances. You're not going to be a rising-star getting big fights fighting part-time fighters in Germany or Kazakhstan................

It's been 2.5 years and he's yet to get a "big fight." Lomachenko has been in the USA for less than half that time and is fighting on a Mayweather-Pac undercard. So uhhh, yeah.