Froch wants Ward II in Nottingham

[lefthook2daliva]

Ward doesn't have the kind of power to turn Bute into the quivering mess that Froch did. At the time that was the best fight to make at 168 and one of the biggest in boxing yet Ward didn't want it.

If you really think Ward was scared of losing to Bute and avoided that fight at that time for that reason, then I'll just disagree and leave it at that, as I duck most, if not all "ducking" arguments. I rarely feel like I can see clearly enough what is actually going on to speculate.

As for Ward not having enough power to make Bute give up, I think you're wrong. Imo, once Bute discovered he was outclassed it was over. While I'm not arguing that Ward has hands equally heavy to Froch's, I think Bute's physical unmanning was preceded by his mental capitulation and that Ward was more than capable of the mental domination that would have
enabled the physical pwnage despite having less pop than Carl.

tl,dr: levels exist and once Bute stepped up, he got squashed like a bug. Kessler would have beat him similarly.

[BattlingNelson]

If you really think Ward was scared of losing to Bute and avoided that fight at that time for that reason, then I'll just disagree and leave it at that, as I duck most, if not all "ducking" arguments. I rarely feel like I can see clearly enough what is actually going on to speculate.

As for Ward not having enough power to make Bute give up, I think you're wrong. Imo, once Bute discovered he was outclassed it was over. While I'm not arguing that Ward has hands equally heavy to Froch's, I think Bute's physical unmanning was preceded by his mental capitulation and that Ward was more than capable of the mental domination that would have
enabled the physical pwnage despite having less pop than Carl.

tl,dr: levels exist and once Bute stepped up, he got squashed like a bug. Kessler would have beat him similarly.

Yeah. Bute was never really that good. A shame for Ward that he was not the one who got to him first. That was a major miscalculation.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

If you really think Ward was scared of losing to Bute and avoided that fight at that time for that reason, then I'll just disagree and leave it at that, as I duck most, if not all "ducking" arguments. I rarely feel like I can see clearly enough what is actually going on to speculate.

As for Ward not having enough power to make Bute give up, I think you're wrong. Imo, once Bute discovered he was outclassed it was over. While I'm not arguing that Ward has hands equally heavy to Froch's, I think Bute's physical unmanning was preceded by his mental capitulation and that Ward was more than capable of the mental domination that would have
enabled the physical pwnage despite having less pop than Carl.

tl,dr: levels exist and once Bute stepped up, he got squashed like a bug. Kessler would have beat him similarly.

We'll never know because Froch battered the life out of him and he's finished now.

But that is a clear example of Froch doing Ward's dirty work for him.

[Crazylegs77]

Ward calls the shots. He beat Carl Froch already. Who is froch to dictate terms.

Froch is the champion; Froch has a bigger fan base and more drawing power; Froch actually fights

Exactly, Ward should be thankful he hasnt been stripped of his WBA belt. He is not a true fighter, he is one of the pioneers of the new breed of boxers who are basically princesses who see other fighters making more money so they have tantrums and pout about it. Froch kept going while Ward sat around did nothing. Why on earth wouldnt Ward want to have a huge fight in england, probably would make more money there since thats what he is most interested in (well that and God ). A win over Froch would put him back in the spotlight, its a good opportunity. Ward dont want the fight though obviously. Maybe he fights Shelby Pudwill rematch instead in good old Oakland.

[lefthook2daliva]

Yeah. Bute was never really that good. A shame for Ward that he was not the one who got to him first. That was a major miscalculation.

We'll never know because Froch battered the life out ofhim and he's finished now.

But that is a clear example of Froch doing Ward's dirty work for him.

Can't argue much with either statement really.