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  • #21
    I think throwing more punches works in Floyd's favor. Counter punchers need a guy to throw punches at them. Manny has power but he isn't a physical brawler like Castillo. Pac doesn't throw punches from unorthodox angles while brawling like Miadana. Pac darts in and out throwing combos from angles. If Pac can consistently force Floyd into a shell while getting some meaningful shots through he can win. Pac couldn't stop Algieri so I highly doubt he will stop one of the best boxers ever. The Algeri fight showed that Pac is still vulnerable to a counter straight right hand. I don't know if Pac just didn't care during that fight because Algieri has very little power but if it isn't fixed he will lose. ****m was right about Mosley showing the blueprint to beat Pac. Its what Marquez used to get the KO.
    If you were watching what their hands were doing you probably missed it.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      I am letting Pacmania know that a list of quotes will be ready to go after the fight.
      Add this quote from me. Manny pacquiao is going to easily beat mayweather. It will look alot like the algieri fight. I hope you will give Manny all the credit after the fight and not try to say mayweather was old. They are both the top 2 welterweights so no excuses when pacquiao beats that ass. And if by some miracle Mayweather beats pacquiao with no controversy, I will give him his just due but not until then

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      • #23
        Pac get's KO and still talking about it as if Mayweather did it. If Mayweather gets knocked out cold the same way, will you guys keep bringing it up? Or make up an excuse

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        • #24
          i remember algieri coming out in the middle of the fight and seemingly boxing teh **** out of manny in a round...u sure he's fresher? i think floyd used the ring for 3 entire rounds with chino until he got hit in the third that changed the gameplan..seemed like he was taking taht last split second of the round light and paid for it..he maid chino miss the same shot prior to that punch and after..its bad for manny that floyd just got hurt a fight before...bc floyd wont make the same mistake more than once...first fight a guy 160 plus leaned all over floyd and floyd still was fresher in the late rounds..

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          • #25
            Originally posted by gdub27 View Post
            I think throwing more punches works in Floyd's favor. Counter punchers need a guy to throw punches at them. Manny has power but he isn't a physical brawler like Castillo. Pac doesn't throw punches from unorthodox angles while brawling like Miadana. Pac darts in and out throwing combos from angles. If Pac can consistently force Floyd into a shell while getting some meaningful shots through he can win. Pac couldn't stop Algieri so I highly doubt he will stop one of the best boxers ever. The Algeri fight showed that Pac is still vulnerable to a counter straight right hand. I don't know if Pac just didn't care during that fight because Algieri has very little power but if it isn't fixed he will lose. ****m was right about Mosley showing the blueprint to beat Pac. Its what Marquez used to get the KO.
            If you were watching what their hands were doing you probably missed it.
            We get it...it's with their legs riding the bike around the ring. At age 37, you want Mayweather to run around, that's something to watch. I don't think Pacquiao would "chase" either.

            I think it's going to be somewhere in between. Pacquiao would try to initiate the cutting of the ring and "crowd" Mayweather into a Philly-Shell Defense. A la Clottey maybe but not enticing Pacquiao into an all-out brawl but smartly punching ONLY when there's an opportunity.

            I think Pacquiao would go in-and-out, lateral movements and alteratingly brawling together with finesse-boxing.

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            • #26
              every lazy left jab gets countered..every time mayweather sees him off balance he gets countered...freddie think gone fix things u couldnt fix over 10 years just for one fight? he will be discouraged by the 4th round and floyd will let him go on a lil flurry in the 5th while working his body in a sneakish way..may do it again for the 6th and then its time to go home b/c the sparring match between a true ATG and a cw,duck test, weight stipulation, shot fighter beating king is on.. floyd leads on point so far by the 11 and 12 he's just skating around the ring until its time to raise his hand or until they rob him...manny's legacy cant afford another helping hand..

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              • #27
                Originally posted by gdub27 View Post
                I think throwing more punches works in Floyd's favor. Counter punchers need a guy to throw punches at them. Manny has power but he isn't a physical brawler like Castillo. Pac doesn't throw punches from unorthodox angles while brawling like Miadana. Pac darts in and out throwing combos from angles. If Pac can consistently force Floyd into a shell while getting some meaningful shots through he can win. Pac couldn't stop Algieri so I highly doubt he will stop one of the best boxers ever. The Algeri fight showed that Pac is still vulnerable to a counter straight right hand. I don't know if Pac just didn't care during that fight because Algieri has very little power but if it isn't fixed he will lose. ****m was right about Mosley showing the blueprint to beat Pac. Its what Marquez used to get the KO.
                If you were watching what their hands were doing you probably missed it.
                The only way mannies volume punching would work in floyds favor was if somehow mayweather could catch him with a lucky punch and Ko him. Other than that, it will be very hard for mayweather to overcome volume punching with his run, clinch, and potshot tactics which we know he will use. Whenever he faces a power puncher like pacquiao, he goes on his back foot and dances around the ring potshotting and clinching like Lara did to canelo. Mayweather did this for the 2nd maidana fight. I cant believe people think mayweather is going to walk pacquiao down. Pacquiao is not Robert Guerrero or victor ortiz, hell hes way above the likes of cotto and canelo. Mayweather will get knocked out trying to walk pacquiao down. Trust me this will be a game of cat and mouse, with pacquiao the cat chasing mayweather all over the ring. He did a superb job demolishing Chris algiero who used those same tactics. Manny cut the ring off very well. I love how people say pacquiao has no inside game. That is hilarious. Let mayweather try to make it an inside fight and see what happens. If Shane Mosley can come really close to knocking him out as an old man, Manny pacquiao certainly has a chance to land some very nice clean straight left hands to the chin of Floyd kayweather. I see alot of knockdowns against mayweather, and possibly a Ko. Expect Floyd to clam up in his turtle shell and not come out, and basically hold on and try not getting knocked out the entire fight like the guys in my sig.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                  I am letting Pacmania know that a list of quotes will be ready to go after the fight.
                  Thats what I was thinking , Freddie has promised Manny knocking out every opponent he goes against and as his comp got weaker and weaker he still cant stop anyone and here Freddie is at it again , the pac fanboys will get tough so its all good , hopefully they put some real money on Manny so Floyds odds are not so short .

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by fabie View Post
                    We get it...it's with their legs riding the bike around the ring. At age 37, you want Mayweather to run around, that's something to watch. I don't think Pacquiao would "chase" either.

                    I think it's going to be somewhere in between. Pacquiao would try to initiate the cutting of the ring and "crowd" Mayweather into a Philly-Shell Defense. A la Clottey maybe but not enticing Pacquiao into an all-out brawl but smartly punching ONLY when there's an opportunity.

                    I think Pacquiao would go in-and-out, lateral movements and alteratingly brawling together with finesse-boxing.
                    so floyd should have to fight pac style?? didnt he get this far using the ring and being defensive..he should change that just for you right? first you tellem he has to take the fight..then u tell him how he has to fight the fight? ha...u sound dumber than canelo when he picked lara after wathcing tape on him...then saying he wouldnt be still...in wat world is clottey's feet anywhere brilliant as floyd? in wat world is clottey anywhere as quick..floyd deterimes pac of every fight..bradley determined pac on one leg..without him sittin on the ropes for the last 30 seconds of 6 and 7 manny has not flurry..for 4 rounds straight...but i hold to this floyd wont have to move..manny's right jab will be just a bad a friend for manny as floyds movement would be

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by tiliheels View Post
                      i remember algieri coming out in the middle of the fight and seemingly boxing teh **** out of manny in a round...u sure he's fresher? i think floyd used the ring for 3 entire rounds with chino until he got hit in the third that changed the gameplan..seemed like he was taking taht last split second of the round light and paid for it..he maid chino miss the same shot prior to that punch and after..its bad for manny that floyd just got hurt a fight before...bc floyd wont make the same mistake more than once...first fight a guy 160 plus leaned all over floyd and floyd still was fresher in the late rounds..
                      Lol algieri seemingly outboxed Manny? That was round 5 and that was the only round that anyone could possibly give tonalgieri and even then it was debatable. I thought Manny won every round. Winning 11/12 rounds and scoring 6 knockdowns and you say algiero outboxed the shnit out of him that round? Manny took the round off and still beat him. You guys are hilarious. Maidana at the very least drew with mayweather in the first fight and should have gotten the win. He won 7 rounds. Maidana who got completely tooken to school and dominated by Devon Alexander beat Floyd mayweather, and you guys really think Floyd stands a chance against Manny pacquiao? That's fubar I say just fubar

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