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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    It doesnt. They didnt give a **** about extra testing. Its only after Pascal demanded extra testing after the contracts were signed, that they said ok, but its gotta be Vada
    Duva said its her fighter, she should get to choose. If that's the case, choose prior and put it in the contract. My guess would be she didn't because she didn't want testing.

    Then when Pascal asks for it, its not fair for her to decide what the protocol is going to be, since, she didn't care about it when she forwarded the contract.

    You fault Pascal for asking for testing after the contracts are signed, but he offset that by agreeing to pay for all of it.

    I'm asking if Kovalev is ok with testing and DUva prefers VADA, why wasn't it put in despite there not being a request?

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    • elgu
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Duva said its her fighter, she should get to choose. If that's the case, choose prior and put it in the contract. My guess would be she didn't because she didn't want testing.

      Then when Pascal asks for it, its not fair for her to decide what the protocol is going to be, since, she didn't care about it when she forwarded the contract.

      You fault Pascal for asking for testing after the contracts are signed, but he offset that by agreeing to pay for all of it.

      I'm asking if Kovalev is ok with testing and DUva prefers VADA, why wasn't it put in despite there not being a request?
      Duva is right though, Vada are the ones that catch people which is why boxers run from them. Pascal came crying about testing after the fight was signed just like he did with hopkins only this time Kovalev called his bluff. If Vada is cheaper and better why does pascal choose a more expensive but less reliable testing protocol? What does he have to hide?

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        #13
        Originally posted by elgu
        Duva is right though, Vada are the ones that catch people which is why boxers run from them. Pascal came crying about testing after the fight was signed just like he did with hopkins only this time Kovalev called his bluff. If Vada is cheaper and better why does pascal choose a more expensive but less reliable testing protocol? What does he have to hide?
        Why is VADA better, because Duva says so? Is there any evidence WADA Pascal ahs been using is not good? The cost issue makes sense, that's even more reason for DUva to put it in prior, right?

        I get your point, I just don't think its right for Duva to want to control the testing protocol when she didn't put any testing in the contract.

        Only when Pascal brought it up did she say-hey my guy is the champ it my choice. SO she has both the right to not ask for testing, then choose the testing that will be done if the opponent requests testing.

        Is that right?

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          #14
          There is no way to overstate how much this backfired on Pascal. I praised him for stepping up where Stevenson wouldn't. What he hoped to accomplish by asking for drug testing "but only the easy kind" nobody will ever know. Now he looks like a hardcore doper.

          Maybe it was just a dumb idea his management had or some trashtalk he didn't think would be taken so seriously. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt I guess.

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            #15
            So wait....Kovalev isn't doing any testing because Pascal won't pay for VADA?

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            • dirty fingers
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              #16
              Pascal is a piece of shit.

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              • Beater_of_ass
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                #17
                VADA is much more strict than USADA or whatever Pascal had been using for "years." If he's clean, there should be no problems taking their tests. I'm more su****ious of him only being tested by ONE person, especially since he's the one that brought it up.

                In the end, it really doesn't matter. Pascal is going to get lit up whether they both are on PED's or not. Pascal doesn't really stand a chance to be honest.

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                  #18
                  Why don't Duva or Kovalev pay for the testing themselves?

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Freedom.
                    So you're a fan of Pascal now, Big Dunn?

                    You're obviously taking his side here...

                    ...even though you KNOW he works with the notorious Memo Heredia, who is an expert at hiding PED use. Only VADA is thorough enough to detect Memo's PEDs, that's why Pascal is refusing it even though it's less expensive.
                    The old "frame the poster rather than answer the point in the post" routine. This is a pathetic as you making a thread about Dirk and then putting him on ignore.

                    My post is about Duva and what she did, period. Have enough integrity to not try and shift the argument.

                    If she knew JP works with Memo, all the more reason to have it in the contract ahead of time. She basically didn't want testing, then wanted to pick the protocol.

                    Is that right? I don't think so.

                    She didn't want to pay for it so that's why she didn't put it in the contract. The Pascal called her on it and she tried to save face with all this BS.

                    Have some integrity Freedom.

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                    • Beater_of_ass
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Why don't Duva or Kovalev pay for the testing themselves?
                      Because Pascal wants to, he just only wants to pay for the one he wants. Not the more strict VADA which was formed with the help of Memo's archrival. Victor Conte. Memo and Pascal know they can cheat the system, but they aren't going to cheat a former cheater.

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