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  • D4thincarnation
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    #21
    Originally posted by radioraheem
    As a professional, he has never done advanced random drug testing through VADA, USADA, or NSAC.
    Random for 60 days and no blood testing from 18 days from the fight, and samples destroyed if you use USADA.

    They also don't CIR test all their samples.

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    • radioraheem
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      #22
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      Random for 60 days and no blood testing from 18 days from the fight, and samples destroyed if you use USADA.

      They also don't CIR test all their samples.
      The discussion is not about which anti-doping organisation is the best.

      The discussion is about whether or not GGG has ever undergone random drug testing. And the fact is, he has never undergone random drug testing through any of the common anti-doping organisations (no VADA, no USADA, and no advanced NSAC tests).

      Nice deflection try though.

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      • D4thincarnation
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        #23
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        The discussion is not about which anti-doping organisation is the best.

        The discussion is about whether or not GGG has ever undergone random drug testing. And the fact is, he has never undergone random drug testing through any of the common anti-doping organisations (no VADA, no USADA, and no advanced NSAC tests).

        Nice deflection try though.
        Every heard of the Olympics?

        And you seem to think that some of the drug testing carried out by USADA is advanced.

        How wrong you are.

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        • radioraheem
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          #24
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          Every heard of the Olympics?
          That's the amateurs, not as a professional. And I started the sentence saying that as a professional, he has never done it. Again, nice try.

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          • Foreign Soil
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            #25
            He lookin dominant, he must be on PEDs. That's the only answer. Not the years of hard work he's put in, which go back to knocking out bigger opponents than himself in the amateurs.

            Why can't all the fighters who get busted with PEDs replicate GGG's performances?

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #26
              Originally posted by radioraheem
              That's the amateurs, not as a professional. And I started the sentence saying that as a professional, he has never done it. Again, nice try.
              Don't think Ali did none either.

              Or Holyfield, Tyson, Hagler, Leonard, Jones and Toney but the last two were caught by standard post fight urine tests.

              Has blood testing caught anybody in boxing?

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              • mathed
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                #27
                Originally posted by radioraheem
                As a professional, he has never done advanced random drug testing through VADA, USADA, or NSAC.



                It's not so much that, it's more how the fighter dominates. GGG has been doing something quite unprecedented, which is stopping damn near every opponent. It's the equivalent of a major league baseball playing hitting a home run almost every single game. Such a player could be legit, but rarely does such a thing happen. Matter of fact, it has never happened. That's draws some su****ion, even though he might be 100% clean.
                Yeah, if he was just out boxing the crap out of other guys, I wouldn't think anything fishy was up with him. But.......this dude is straight up beating guys to a pulp with a few punches. The first time he landed on Murray cleanly, Murray gets a black eye. Now I know that's not a strange phenomena to get a black eye when punched but whenever he lands on someone regardless of whether they are blocking or not, they get damaged up pretty badly.

                Then when you consider his whole image is as a destroyer and how HBO building him as this KO monster and the fact that he apparently doesn't get tested before fights, it lends itself to the idea that maybe no one really wants him to be tested. It might not be so good for business if you know what I mean.

                HBO kept talking about how the fight should be stopped for the fighter's safety and how irresponsible Murray's corner was to keep sending him back out there, which may be true to an extent. But if health is that important and this guy is a KO generating machine, you would think that drug testing would be a priority for the sake of the participants' safety right? KO's sell and it's all about money in the end so I would not be surprised if some shady stuff was going on.

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                • radioraheem
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  Don't think Ali did none either.

                  Or Holyfield, Tyson, Hagler, Leonard, Jones and Toney but the last two were caught by standard post fight urine tests.

                  Has blood testing caught anybody in boxing?
                  Discussion is not about Ali, Holyfield, Hagler, etc. It's about whether or not GGG underwent random drug testing as a professional. And the answer is NO.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #29
                    Probably not. He likely doesn't have the funds to do it himself and no promoters shell out for testing unless the fighter wants it.

                    Has he used? I think almost everyone has. Golovkin might(probably) have as well.

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                    • DannYankee
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                      #30
                      THey all be roiding I be surprised if someone isn't in someway getting a leg up.

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