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  • Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
    It took May to talk personally to Pac to get it done. Arum was more in the way than anybody else and now he is blaming the Phillipines media, what a jerk.
    Arum is just mad because he lost allies in his crusade to mislead the people. I believe everyone wanted this fight except Arum.

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    • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
      If Manny was so good at adapting to plans and coming up with strategies then he would have figured Marquez out like Marquez did to him. Marquez figured out and timed Pacquiao with a perfect counter punch then I'm banking on Floyd doing the same.
      I will tell you how Marquez figured out Pac and what adjustment he made.

      Because I am quite sure that blueprint will be use by Floyd too.

      It is the FOOT STOMPING/FOOT TRIPPIMG Marquez employed/applied on Pac since Marquez vs Pac 3.

      How will I know it is not accidental tripping or stomping or foot get entangled like some boxing trainer etc said it's just natural when a southpaw and a right handed fights?

      There will be a lot of footage available everywhere on the internet with Floyd fighting southpaws. those will be my basis for this.

      How many instances where Floyd's foot get tripped stomp or get entangled with say Zab, Corley, maybe also Guerrero.

      Those fights would be enough for me to distinguished if there will be sudden increase of this tripping stomping or entanglement with Floyd against Pac.

      You heard it here on me first

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      • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
        If Manny was so good at adapting to plans and coming up with strategies then he would have figured Marquez out like Marquez did to him. Marquez figured out and timed Pacquiao with a perfect counter punch then I'm banking on Floyd doing the same.
        won 57 (KO 38) + lost 5 (KO 3) + drawn 2 = 64

        Pacquiao fought 64 fights...how many fights did Mayweather "picked" to fight? If Mayweather chooses to fight that much, I am pretty sure someone would actually beat him and there were "questionable" decisions too in that "47" that he has.

        For 64 fights of Pacquiao, winning 57 and you're saying that Manny cannot adapt...wow.

        Every fighter has their "contra-pelo" - their nemesis, arch rival. Manny fought Marquez 4 times. He could have stopped after fight no.1. But they didn't.

        Something Floyd hasn't done until Maidana. Had Mayweather ever fought Mosley in his young-er days (and say 4 times) I would absolutely say that Floyd would have lost at least 1 time there. How about Zab Judah? or even Margarito in his prime? or how about De la Hoya 2?

        To me Floyd is oozing with skills, perhaps one of the greatest Defensive fighter of all time (maybe rivaling Whitaker and Pep). But he has relegated the sport of pugilism into mere prizefighting and pure business...as slap in the face of the sport.

        No one can question Floyd's skills, techniques and prowess...No one (universally). But many can question his heart in the sport in providing real challenges beyond "cherry picking".

        Pacquiao's skills (relatively) compared to Floyd's may impale. Obviously there are not two fighters alike like snowflakes. However Pacquiao also have arsenal that only Mayweather can dream of such as his combination punches and multi-angle-variations of it to combine with speed and strength with nimble footwork.

        An argument that Floyd would say is: "I don't have to because I have superlative defense". Sure he doesn't need to punch more than his laser-like pot-shots, specifically his right crosses. But to say that Pacquiao cannot adapt or have problems adjusting is a farce.

        Outside the ring, negotiations with Floyd showed Pacquiao's ability to adjust to get on with the fight. If I may interject even with the premise of yours that Mayweather is a supreme fighter that can adjust, outside the ring is a real egotistical and illogical in taking his purported "A side" of the deal.

        If not for Les Moonves pressuring Mayweather (his boss) to fight or else...then this fight will not happen at all.

        So Floyd "adjusted" after all - it's more like he was pressured to "adjust".
        Last edited by fabie; 02-22-2015, 10:14 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Szef View Post
          You're in for a big surprise my friend.

          I'm not saying Pac will win, but it won't be a usual "Guerrero" night for Floyd. Pacquiao is one of the best fighters of the last 20 years, and on May 2 Mayweather will find out why.
          Pacquiao has always been a good fighter but I believe if he had a trainer that could give him solid strategies on how to defend himself and be more technical then he would have been much better.

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          • Originally posted by Rath View Post
            I will tell you how Marquez figured out Pac and what adjustment he made.

            Because I am quite sure that blueprint will be use by Floyd too.

            It is the FOOT STOMPING/FOOT TRIPPIMG Marquez employed/applied on Pac since Marquez vs Pac 3.

            How will I know it is not accidental tripping or stomping or foot get entangled like some boxing trainer etc said it's just natural when a southpaw and a right handed fights?

            There will be a lot of footage available everywhere on the internet with Floyd fighting southpaws. those will be my basis for this.

            How many instances where Floyd's foot get tripped stomp or get entangled with say Zab, Corley, maybe also Guerrero.

            Those fights would be enough for me to distinguished if there will be sudden increase of this tripping stomping or entanglement with Floyd against Pac.

            You heard it here on me first
            Foot stomping and tripping? Please man, go ahead with that nonsense. Freddie already debunked your theories about the foot stomping/tripping talk. Ridiculous argument made by you.

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            • Originally posted by fabie View Post
              won 57 (KO 38) + lost 5 (KO 3) + drawn 2 = 64

              Pacquiao fought 64 fights...how many fights did Mayweather "picked" to fight? If Mayweather chooses to fight that much, I am pretty sure someone would actually beat him and there were "questionable" decisions too in that "47" that he has.

              For 64 fights of Pacquiao, winning 57 and you're saying that Manny cannot adapt...wow.

              Every fighter has their "contra-pelo" - their nemesis, arch rival. Manny fought Marquez 4 times. He could have stopped after fight no.1. But they didn't.

              Something Floyd hasn't done until Maidana. Had Mayweather ever fought Mosley in his young-er days (and say 4 times) I would absolutely say that Floyd would have lost at least 1 time there. How about Zab Judah? or even Margarito in his prime? or how about De la Hoya 2?

              To me Floyd is oozing with skills, perhaps one of the greatest Defensive fighter of all time (maybe rivaling Whitaker and Pep). But he has relegated the sport of pugilism into mere prizefighting and pure business...as slap in the face of the sport.

              No one can question Floyd's skills, techniques and prowess...No one (universally). But many can question his heart in the sport in providing real challenges beyond "cherry picking".

              Pacquiao's skills (relatively) compared to Floyd's may impale. Obviously there are not two fighters alike like snowflakes. However Pacquiao also have arsenal that only Mayweather can dream of such as his combination punches and multi-angle-variations of it to combine with speed and strength with nimble footwork.

              An argument that Floyd would say is: "I don't have to because I have superlative defense". Sure he doesn't need to punch more than his laser-like pot-shots, specifically his right crosses. But to say that Pacquiao cannot adapt or have problems adjusting is a farce.

              Outside the ring, negotiations with Floyd showed Pacquiao's ability to adjust to get on with the fight. If I may interject even with the premise of yours that Mayweather is a supreme fighter that can adjust, outside the ring is a real egotistical and illogical in taking his purported "A side" of the deal.

              If not for Les Moonves pressuring Mayweather (his boss) to fight or else...then this fight will not happen at all.

              So Floyd "adjusted" after all - it's more like he was pressured to "adjust".
              Manny couldn't adjust to Marquez in a span of over 12 years, 3 weight classes with age and experience on his side at WW. Manny thought him being the stronger fighter at 147 would make him manhandle Marquez before the 3rd fight. Roach cannot help Manny against counter punchers because Manny style is mostly focus on aggression and speed, not defense. Mayweather is smarter and the bigger fighter with a longer reach. You believe what you want and I will as well. Pacquiao will have no answer(s) for Mayweather technical fight game. Manny could not stop after fight one with Marquez because it was declared a draw. Floyd fought Castillo in the rematch and beat him without controversy. majority of your post just sounds so salty. Mayweather is the A side and it is not his fault that Pacquiao thought he was in 2009 so much that he walked away from 50/50 purse split and 14 days random blood testing only to agree to 60/40 split and random testing up until the fight.
              Last edited by GRUSTLER; 02-22-2015, 10:59 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Bald Shavers View Post
                The fact is that Mayweather tried to wait Pacquiao out until Manny was just a ghost of his former self. But pressure from the promoters, networks, and the public forced him to fight Pac much earlier.

                Mayweather should have waited another year before finally agreeing to sign the contract.
                I think you are in denial he called the man 2 years ago to offer fighter...first fight manny had all the demands and wanted to debate cut off date...dumb and su****ious ....arum said it all here he knows PAC couldn't beat Floyd then that why he held it up...I'm proud that PAC finally man'd up stop being arum slave and meet Floyd in person ...only a idiot wit us say Floyd avoided PAC ....you dint call or go to a place a person will be if you scared ....arum new best but now he can no longer rip off PAC for money he is getting older and you can't trick the public with bs fights like rios, the swimsuit model and Vargas ...lol who was next bruno Mars ...Floyd was older fighting better fighters

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                • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  No, it quite simple easy. Judah would throw first and when he did, he had success.



                  Watch the first 4 rounds.

                  From your posts I can only assume, A you never saw the fight, or B you really don't understand boxing as well you say you do.

                  No wonder you have to listen for other people opinion.
                  It was quit simple; but for different reasons. Judah only had success when Floyd was analyzing him in the beginning of the fight. After the fourth round Floyd literally picked Judah apart, hence why Judah hit him low and behind the head!

                  You need to learn about this sport before posting a video of Floyd analyzing the first few rounds. Floyd is undefeated and the biggest PPV fighter for a reason and it's not because he can't read!!

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                  • ....and Arum still showed who is the real boss!!! This man is the real invincible.

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                    • I doubt he thinks that but who cares.

                      Fights on!

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