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  • Pigeons
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    #4511
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    Well he was down Floyd's gym back in September, been back down there and been having chats with Ariza.

    Why would Ariza a top class S&C coach need tips from a chemist?

    And Heredia wouldn't be giving tips to the competition for free now will he?

    We know Marquez tried to hide Angel from the public, even giving him a different name.

    Obviously Floyd doesn't want this to get out.

    I think we need to keep a real track on his movement over then couple of months.

    He turned down a job working with Kirkland, why?
    A convicted chemist is one of VADA's founders. Only an idiot thinks Memo is cheating in plain sight. A Pacquiao fan or an idiot. Basically one in the same.

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    • D4thincarnation
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      #4512
      Originally posted by Pigeons
      A convicted chemist is one of VADA's founders. Only an idiot thinks Memo is cheating in plain sight. A Pacquiao fan or an idiot. Basically one in the same.
      He wasn't a founder, he was an adviser in the early days. Much the same way the FBI former hackers to catch the current one. It is always good to have the criminals perspective.

      Memo is not in plain sight though, he doing it very sneakley Ariza is the middle man it seems.

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      • jcpryor
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        #4513
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        Well he was down Floyd's gym back in September, been back down there and been having chats with Ariza.

        Why would Ariza a top class S&C coach need tips from a chemist?

        And Heredia wouldn't be giving tips to the competition for free now will he?

        We know Marquez tried to hide Angel from the public, even giving him a different name.

        Obviously Floyd doesn't want this to get out.

        I think we need to keep a real track on his movement over then couple of months.

        He turned down a job working with Kirkland, why?
        Nothing you just typed answers my question. All it does is attempt to paint Ariza in a bad light, which is counter productive to your argument, considering Ariza's most famous client was Pacquiao, not Mayweather. Why are you su****ious of him now, but not when he was with Pacquiao?

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          #4514
          Originally posted by Pigeons
          A convicted chemist is one of VADA's founders. Only an idiot thinks Memo is cheating in plain sight. A Pacquiao fan or an idiot. Basically one in the same.
          Call me an idiot then, because they're all cheating in plain sight. Hell, this silly VADA/USADA paradigm only exists in one sport and that's only because lol.

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          • D4thincarnation
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            #4515
            Originally posted by jcpryor
            Nothing you just typed answers my question. All it does is attempt to paint Ariza in a bad light, which is counter productive to your argument, considering Ariza's most famous client was Pacquiao, not Mayweather. Why are you su****ious of him now, but not when he was with Pacquiao?
            I'm su****ious of Memo, Ariza has shown he has no morals.

            Too many things to just dismiss

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            • jcpryor
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              #4516
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              I'm su****ious of Memo, Ariza has shown he has no morals.

              Too many things to just dismiss
              So youre saying Ariza had morals when he was with Pacquiao?

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                #4517
                Originally posted by jcpryor
                So youre saying Ariza had morals when he was with Pacquiao?
                No, he never had moral then, but he is not a chemist or can make PEDs, he is a strength and conditioning coach.

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                • jcpryor
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                  #4518
                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                  No, he never had moral then, but he is not a chemist or can make PEDs, he is a strength and conditioning coach.
                  Oh ok. So you're saying he didn't know any chemists when he was with Pacquiao?

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                  • D4thincarnation
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                    #4519
                    Originally posted by jcpryor
                    Oh ok. So you're saying he didn't know any chemists when he was with Pacquiao?
                    Not to my knowledge, not any that have been doping and brag about the can beat the tests.

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                    • Pigeons
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                      #4520
                      Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                      Call me an idiot then, because they're all cheating in plain sight. Hell, this silly VADA/USADA paradigm only exists in one sport and that's only because lol.
                      How about the Olympics and cycling?

                      USADA and VADA exist in boxing because it is a sport, not a league. Baseball doesn't have drug testing, the MLB does. Basketball doesn't have drug testing, the NBA does. Etc.

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