Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[radioraheem]

You Floyd fans need to get your stories straight. Some of you are saying it happened only during the fight while some do not believe it even happened and there was no surgery.

The cameras were not always on Manny's corner. Manny's corner did say that they spoke about it. They were aware prior to the fight about this injury. So it was nothing new.

As for Floyd saying it. Manny said it to the commissions. Sparring partners said it. Manny's doctor said it. Manny had surgery. They said they spoke about it in the fight too. Usada spoke to Manny's doctor weeks before the fight on a few occasions. All Manny's talk is a lie to you but Floyd's self prognosis makes it a legit severe injury that gave him the right to use it as an excuse for Floyd's poor performance .... got it.

There were various broadcasts, like Sky Sports for instance. And they show different cameras for the corner than HBO/Showtime did. In ALL the broadcasts, Team Pacquiao's corner never made any hints, suggestions, or talked about an injury.

With NSAC, nothing was said about the injury til 90 minutes before the fight was going to happen. And upon mentioning it, they did not provide any concrete evidence to prove he had an injury. USADA did not speak with Pacquiao's doctors, and no one informed them that he had an injury BEFORE the fight. There is also a sparring partner that said he knew nothing of an injury before the fight.

[radioraheem]

First of all, you agreed that Manny was injured in the fight. So it really does not matter if you don't believe there was an injury beforehand.

but just to say

You have yet to show any evidence that Manny was not injured before the fight. All you have is a sparring partner that was not aware but nobody saying that Manny was not hurt and that it was all a lie. Big, big difference! You can't even get a quote from the commissions nor USADA or anyone saying that they do not believe that Manny was injured.

On the other hand, there are quotes of the commissions being aware of the injury prior to the fight(spoke to Manny's team and doctors), USADA knew about the medication and the injury(investigated and spoke to Manny's doctors twice), sparring partners, doctors, yet you still trying to say that there was nothing. Thanks for the laugh. For you it was all coincidence that there was all that talk beforehand and later Manny having surgery to the same right shoulder.

Also, a sparring partner saying what was said below is good evidence and not considered hearsay. Just because another sparring partner didn't know about it doesn't mean that others didn't. That's like saying that because 2 judges didn't see a punch land that the 3rd judge saw then it didn't land.

"I just want to fill everyone in on all the rumors! We were asked not to mention anything to anyone but Yes Manny got hurt during this camp with his right shoulder and it was messed up pretty bad! So bad his sparring partners including myself were asked to go home a few weeks out before the actual fight, which means a lot of work he could have put in for this fight was brought to a halt due to the fact that he could not spar really anymore and didnt wanna mess it up more than he already had..........

..... If everyone knew what I knew you would be loved even more than how you are now! Thank you again for the experience and making me apart of this historic event memories I will cherish forever! No excuses at all being made the injury was real!" - Dashon Johnson

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There is NO concrete evidence that he was injured BEFORE the fight. And that is the bottom line. Evidence of an injury post-fight means little to nothing.

USADA went on record saying they knew nothing of the injury, and NSAC too (well not til 90 mins prior, but never was provided evidence to prove it). USADA went on record stating that they were not provided any concrete evidence for any injury. This is a fact. And you cannot provide any evidence of USADA saying they were aware of an injury BEFORE the fight. Only evidence that they did NOT know.

A sparring partner saying he had an injury is hearsay and it's not concrete evidence. Real evidence is official documentation verifying an injury, in the form of paperwork, MRI's, etc. That always *****s any hearsay or witness testimony (which often can be false). Too bad they don't have that to prove the injury BEFORE the fight.

[ADP02]

There is NO concrete evidence that he was injured BEFORE the fight. And that is the bottom line. Evidence of an injury post-fight means little to nothing.

USADA went on record saying they knew nothing of the injury, and NSAC too (well not til 90 mins prior, but never was provided evidence to prove it). USADA went on record stating that they were not provided any concrete evidence for any injury. This is a fact. And you cannot provide any evidence of USADA saying they were aware of an injury BEFORE the fight. Only evidence that they did NOT know.

A sparring partner saying he had an injury is hearsay and it's not concrete evidence. Real evidence is official documentation verifying an injury, in the form of paperwork, MRI's, etc. That always *****s any hearsay or witness testimony (which often can be false). Too bad they don't have that to prove the injury BEFORE the fight.

Funny stuff. All these years, I didn't see any paper work of Floyd's injury. Only Floyd saying it. Yet Floyd and his fans used that in every Castillo thread. Where were you then? Did you post that it didn't happen because there was no MRI? No Paperwork?

You are so wrong. From what I posted, the sparring partner can be used as a witness. Just to say that it is NOT hearsay. He knew first hand that Manny's shoulder was messed up. Ever watch cases where with circumstantial evidence they put someone away for life? Well, Manny has (more than that) doctors, sparring partners saying it was definitely injured. Others like the commission who were aware of it prior to the fight. USADA knew about the injury. Again, for a Floyd fan, it was all coincidence. Like lightening striking and hitting you twice.

I gave you the chance but you on the other hand have no evidence to back up your statements. NOTHING! No witness, no proof that it was all a lie.

[brickcityboxing]

You Floyd fans need to get your stories straight. Some of you are saying it happened only during the fight while some do not believe it even happened and there was no surgery.

The cameras were not always on Manny's corner. Manny's corner did say that they spoke about it. They were aware prior to the fight about this injury. So it was nothing new.

As for Floyd saying it. Manny said it to the commissions. Sparring partners said it. Manny's doctor said it. Manny had surgery. They said they spoke about it in the fight too. Usada spoke to Manny's doctor weeks before the fight on a few occasions. All Manny's talk is a lie to you but Floyd's self prognosis makes it a legit severe injury that gave him the right to use it as an excuse for Floyd's poor performance .... got it.

I would say it's more about team Pacquiao not having their stories (plural) straight and obviously when there's 10 different versions of shouldergate floating around you're going to have people calling BS on all 10 of them. If you ask Bob it's an old injury, if you ask Manny it was during the fight, if you ask freddie one of Floyd's spies did it to him on purpose in sparring... their stories are all over the place which isn't an uncommon practice with that team...

[Spoon23]

First of all, you agreed that Manny was injured in the fight. So it really does not matter if you don't believe there was an injury beforehand.

but just to say

You have yet to show any evidence that Manny was not injured before the fight. All you have is a sparring partner that was not aware but nobody saying that Manny was not hurt and that it was all a lie. Big, big difference! You can't even get a quote from the commissions nor USADA or anyone saying that they do not believe that Manny was injured.

On the other hand, there are quotes of the commissions being aware of the injury prior to the fight(spoke to Manny's team and doctors), USADA knew about the medication and the injury(investigated and spoke to Manny's doctors twice), sparring partners, doctors, yet you still trying to say that there was nothing. Thanks for the laugh. For you it was all coincidence that there was all that talk beforehand and later Manny having surgery to the same right shoulder.

Also, a sparring partner saying what was said below is good evidence and not considered hearsay. Just because another sparring partner didn't know about it doesn't mean that others didn't. That's like saying that because 2 judges didn't see a punch land that the 3rd judge saw then it didn't land.

"I just want to fill everyone in on all the rumors! We were asked not to mention anything to anyone but Yes Manny got hurt during this camp with his right shoulder and it was messed up pretty bad! So bad his sparring partners including myself were asked to go home a few weeks out before the actual fight, which means a lot of work he could have put in for this fight was brought to a halt due to the fact that he could not spar really anymore and didnt wanna mess it up more than he already had..........

..... If everyone knew what I knew you would be loved even more than how you are now! Thank you again for the experience and making me apart of this historic event memories I will cherish forever! No excuses at all being made the injury was real!" - Dashon Johnson




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Nailed it!

Total annihilation lol

[Spoon23]

You Floyd fans need to get your stories straight. Some of you are saying it happened only during the fight while some do not believe it even happened and there was no surgery.

The cameras were not always on Manny's corner. Manny's corner did say that they spoke about it. They were aware prior to the fight about this injury. So it was nothing new.

As for Floyd saying it. Manny said it to the commissions. Sparring partners said it. Manny's doctor said it. Manny had surgery. They said they spoke about it in the fight too. Usada spoke to Manny's doctor weeks before the fight on a few occasions. All Manny's talk is a lie to you but Floyd's self prognosis makes it a legit severe injury that gave him the right to use it as an excuse for Floyd's poor performance .... got it.

Too much evidence and overwhelming logic to your statement buddy. Flowmos might commit harakiri after hearing all that lol

That's the nail in the coffin! Dang! Floyd fought a one armed Pac and looked silly running from him. Vagina much?? Yep! Haha

And yet these overwhelming evidence ain't proof to these flowmos lol. Logic and reasoning don't exist in their world, but what you've written here can be heard from those that matters buddy. Cheers!

[fighter1234]

pacturds still scrambling

[johnm is...]

God damn. This is past pathetic.

[b00g13man]

God damn. This is past pathetic.

Indeed.....

[RED REP]

I'm just glad Floyd boxed Manny and made Manny look lost.

Absolutely priceless moment.

That post fight interview with Manny made Manny look like the biggest joke and that was such a priceless interview.

So glad it's over time to move on.