Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[Spoon23]

One was playing boxing one was playing dancing with the stars.

[GRUSTLER]

The big man ran all night. That's our super fight right there.

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[krazyn8tive]

Props need to be given to bayless as well. He was on his A game last night.

[goblin213]

[BrometheusBob.]

Say what you will about the tactics, some things became clear in this fight. Mayweather has reflexes at 38 that rival Roy Jones' reflexes in his prime. I feel like this aspect of Mayweather is vastly understated - this is what allows him to stand close enough to get punched but jump just out of the way even as fast handed fighters like Pacquiao throw at him. Pair that up with his great hand speed and you have a recipe for incredible counter punching.

Sure, Pacquiao was generally the aggressor, but he was also looking frustrated at times and almost dormant at others. The punch he landed in round 4 proved that he could give Mayweather trouble. Had that been almost any other fighter Pac's normal follow up approach might have resulted in a knockdown. But Mayweather turtled effectively and Pac's follow up did not force him out of this position. In fact, the only times Pacquiao really could get in position to throw a combination like that one was when it was preceeded by a clean punch but the combos didn't work well and the clean punches didn't come often enough.

I also think that Roach's dismissals of Moore and Ariza were mistakes and that he didn't do enough on Saturday. I caught him saying some things about getting in-and-out and what not, but not a lot about adjustments to the game plan. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt here since the camera was not in the corner the whole time, but nonetheless this was not exactly a prize winning performance on the part of Roach.

I will always be an admirer of the Pacman, especially for his dominant run through the jr featherweight and featherweight divisions. His later fights at 2008-2011 were all exciting as well and I still think it was fair to call him the fighter of the previous decade, though I suppose that's a separate argument. At the end of the day, he lost this fight. Mayweather deserves credit for that.

As far as the future is concerned, since he has been talking about going down to 140 anyway, I'd like to see him take on Matthysse.

[Redd Foxx]

In case it hasn't been posted;

[nj_evoixgsr]

Floyd won but don't be ****** to think Floyd schooled him in any way.

Pac failed to follow up and failed to execute rounds 7-12 With the exception of round 10 Or was it 11. Either way, if he pressed like he did in rounds 2, 4 and 6 when they were trading rounds and visually hurting Floyd and having him fight scared than this conversation would be about how close this fight was.

Pac failed to place any emphasis on fighting in the second half be it his fail of an excuse or he did it to himself.

The facts are floyd never hurt pac. KO was a complete joke for floyd fans. If you can tell me one round of danger than I'd be impressed Or where he blew him out the water. It was Pac who failed himself more than Floyd beating him.

Floyd did what he did best and he proved his place in ATG. Definitely not TBE but a GREAT BOXER!!

No rematch.

Floyd should take a big money fight in UK against khan and knock that China chinned loud mouth out and c'eCT la vie!

Pac should retire but not before finishing up with a W.

Farewell fights for both.

To all other Pac fans, who don't actually watch any other boxer, stfu! Floyd won and he did it and stayed true to his boxing greatness. Live on. Only disappointment should be in pac and roach. Their game Plan ****** or pac did not execute it.

[Ryannn]

Man, I'm really bummed that Manny lost. Floyd clearly won. Manny had his moments but he simply wasn't aggresive enough. ****** gameplan to box that much with floyd.

Props to Floyd. He did what he needed to win. Yeah, it's not really a fan friendly style but that's what made him a HOFer and an ATG.

**** the ******-ass excuses. I despise Floyd but he was simply the better boxer that night.

Still a Manny fan for life!

[brickcityboxing]

People are bringing up the fact that PAC didn't get schooled as some sort of victory lol... And that's not even true. For two guys who are at the pinnacle of the sport what Floyd did to PAC was a schooling straight up! Has anyone ever outboxed PAC that badly without having to take any punishment themselves ? The answer is no! He got schooled.

[BrometheusBob.]

Saw the replay and was able to appreciate the technical display of both fighters much more.

Tough and frustrating fight for Pac. Not only was Mayweather moving way too much but that right hand was waiting for Pac every minute of every round. Pac did well to avoid the big counters for the most part but couldn't really get off. His best moments came from countering off of Mayweather's jab and right hand but Pac couldn't draw them out effectively enough to get any consistent work done. That, coupled with Mayweather always waiting with the right hand I think contributed largely to Pac's uncharacteristic inactivity.

Surprised the see the absence or ineffectiveness of some of the punches were used seeing from both. Mayweather's jab to the body was almost non existent and were far and few. Even his lead and check hook was a non factor for the most part. I thought Pac could have done a lot more with the left straight counter of the jab and the right hook was used sparingly (though there were a couple of nice counters catching Mayweather here and there).

All in all, it played out pretty much on how it looked on paper before the fight. Mayweather winning rounds from movement and right hand counters with Pacquiao having some spurts of success. I thought Mayweather was convincing enough but not utterly dominant. He won not because he beatdown Pacquiao but because he was able to negate Pacquiao's offence and effective agression. I think the 118-110 score was out to lunch, and I think 116-112 was more on point with a couple of swing rounds.

Could Pacquiao have done more? I have a feeling he wish he did (with that, at the risk of getting caught with clearer harder counters).

Very well put. I had scored 116-112, could see 117-111 and 115-113 is possible if you give 2,4,6,9,10 to Pac but it's a tad generous. I feel like 2010 Pac would have been less hesitant than post ko'd Pac was in this fight. I'm not saying he would have won, but at the very least he would have picked it up in rounds 11-12 when it was clear he needed to. It hurt to see those last rounds and I'll probably watch the fight again when that hurt subsides.

Can someone who isn't a pac-tard like myself or a flo-mo offer an opinion on whether you thought the commentators were buggin out. They made it sound like he got Canelo'd which I don't think is fair to say.