Comments Thread For: Video: Roger Mayweather Discusses Manny Pacquiao Fight

[ThePrince]

Floyd is going to walk through Manny and there's nothing you can do or say about it. Manny is not strong enough to challenge Floyd physically and he's not technically sound enough to outbox him either. It's a tremendous match up for Floyd and he is going to make Manny Pacquiao look like Bobby Pacquiao.

You really don't believe this do you? It's one thing to say Floyd would outbox Manny, but him trying to walk through Manny like Hatton, DLH, Cotto, Margarito (all guys much bigger, stronger, and more physically imposing than brittle hands FLoyd) etc tried to do is absolutely ridiculous. That would be suicide and Floyd would be the first to tell you that.

'And now he just gone walk through Manny? Cotto couldn't knock him out, but Floyd can?'

[Rath]

did roger discusses Pac fight or

Roger just diss and cusses Pac?

[Outwest Exp 355]

You really don't believe this do you? It's one thing to say Floyd would outbox Manny, but him trying to walk through Manny like Hatton, DLH, Cotto, Margarito (all guys much bigger, stronger, and more physically imposing than brittle hands FLoyd) etc tried to do is absolutely ridiculous. That would be suicide and Floyd would be the first to tell you that.

'And now he just gone walk through Manny? Cotto couldn't knock him out, but Floyd can?'

I didn't say anything about a KO. Floyd's going to make this fight look easy. I said it years ago and I'm saying it now. Floyd can hop out of a casket and beat Manny. He's going to have to fight the absolute worst fight of his life for it to be competitive. A good jab neutralizes speed. Floyd has one and Manny doesn't. That's the fight right there.

[Arshad221]

I didn't say anything about a KO. Floyd's going to make this fight look easy. I said it years ago and I'm saying it now. Floyd can hop out of a casket and beat Manny. He's going to have to fight the absolute worst fight of his life for it to be competitive. A good jab neutralizes speed. Floyd has one and Manny doesn't. That's the fight right there.

I keep saying this Manny does not have a jab Floyd is going to check hook, slide out make PAC reset and close distance Manny cannot fight on the inside.

[JohnnyRebel]

You really don't believe this do you? It's one thing to say Floyd would outbox Manny, but him trying to walk through Manny like Hatton, DLH, Cotto, Margarito (all guys much bigger, stronger, and more physically imposing than brittle hands FLoyd) etc tried to do is absolutely ridiculous. That would be suicide and Floyd would be the first to tell you that.

'And now he just gone walk through Manny? Cotto couldn't knock him out, but Floyd can?'

Major difference between the Manny vs Cotto and Floyd vs Manny is the fight will be at the division limit of 147lbs, will have USADA testing, and Floyd isn't coming off a loss or bad showing previously... that changes a lot. Floyd's also a lot better defensively, faster than all them guys in hand and foot speed, more accurate, etc... Floyd is all around more skilled and athletic than Hatton, DLH, Cotto, and combined lol. The only thing some of those guys arguably have over Floyd is power.

[ThePrince]

I didn't say anything about a KO. Floyd's going to make this fight look easy. I said it years ago and I'm saying it now. Floyd can hop out of a casket and beat Manny. He's going to have to fight the absolute worst fight of his life for it to be competitive. A good jab neutralizes speed. Floyd has one and Manny doesn't. That's the fight right there.

A) Manny has mastered taking his opponents' jabs away from them. The Cotto fight (AKA the fight that scared the Mayweathers off) was a prime example:



B) Cotto broke Floyd's nose with his jab. Even Maidana had success using the jab against him. Hes susceptible to shots straight down the middle. The shoulder roll is made for wild, cavemen swinging punches (even then, Chino gave him a run for his money and a shot Mosley almost decapitated him). He'll be in a traditional guard against Manny. Pac uses his straight left in the same way most orthodox fighters use their jabs... only it's far faster, much more devastating, and he can deliver it from unusual angles.

If Floyd tries walking Manny down, he'd just be making the same mistake much bigger, stronger, and imposing fighters in the past made against Manny. That would just be playing into Pac's hands. No way in hell Floyd even dreams of attempting that strategy.

[JohnnyRebel]

You really don't believe this do you? It's one thing to say Floyd would outbox Manny, but him trying to walk through Manny like Hatton, DLH, Cotto, Margarito (all guys much bigger, stronger, and more physically imposing than brittle hands FLoyd) etc tried to do is absolutely ridiculous. That would be suicide and Floyd would be the first to tell you that.

'And now he just gone walk through Manny? Cotto couldn't knock him out, but Floyd can?'

Marquez is smaller, weaker, and less physically imposing than Floyd doe. Counter punching can make up for a lot especially when using the aggression against them... lucky punch doe!

[ThePrince]

Marquez is smaller, weaker, and less physically imposing than Floyd doe. Counter punching can make up for a lot especially when using the aggression against them... lucky punch doe!

Marquez never tried to walk down Pac and would've never been ****** enough to attempt it. And it took him 4 fights before he could even get Manny down once (only after hooking up with less than reputable characters and going through a second puberty). And he was taking a helluva beating before that one in a million shot ended the fight. Personally, I don't think Floyd has been as active as Marquez is when he fights Manny (what you need to do to even draw with Pac) in over a decade. He's too used to fight flat-footed plodders who throw one slow punch at a time... and even then I thought the first Maidana fight was a draw.

Fighting on the back foot and throwing the occasional counter attempt here and there is another strategy that doesn't work against Manny (see: Clottey, Mosley, Algieri). In order to beat him, you have to challenge him and match his activity, output. If you try to walk him down you're going to end the night looking like your face was put in a blender. If you think you're going to shell up and throw one punch once in a blue moon, you're going to be swarmed and lose a wide decision. You have to FIGHT Manny (intelligently) in order to beat him.

[Outwest Exp 355]

A) Manny has mastered taking his opponents' jabs away from them. The Cotto fight (AKA the fight that scared the Mayweathers off) was a prime example:



B) Cotto broke Floyd's nose with his jab. Even Maidana had success using the jab against him. Hes susceptible to shots straight down the middle. The shoulder roll is made for wild, cavemen swinging punches (even then, Chino gave him a run for his money and a shot Mosley almost decapitated him). He'll be in a traditional guard against Manny. Pac uses his straight left in the same way most orthodox fighters use their jabs... only it's far faster, much more devastating, and he can deliver it from unusual angles.

If Floyd tries walking Manny down, he'd just be making the same mistake much bigger, stronger, and imposing fighters in the past made against Manny. That would just be playing into Pac's hands. No way in hell Floyd even dreams of attempting that strategy.

Mannys going to struggle getting off. Floyd has a 6" reach advantage. Manny can't fight on the inside like Maidana and Cotto. Those guys use their jab to get inside. Mannys not trying to get inside. He only has a small window when he will be able to get off his punches. Floyd's going to control the fight from the outside and smother Manny on the inside, where Floyd can get off and Manny can't. It's so easy to see the outcome it ain't even funny.

[ThePrince]

Mannys going to struggle getting off. Floyd has a 6" reach advantage. Manny can't fight on the inside like Maidana and Cotto. Those guys use their jab to get inside. Mannys not trying to get inside. He only has a small window when he will be able to get off his punches. Floyd's going to control the fight from the outside and smother Manny on the inside, where Floyd can get off and Manny can't. It's so easy to see the outcome it ain't even funny.

Manny and Cotto have the same exact reach and Miguel's jab found Floyd's face so many times he broke his nose and backed him up into the ropes with it often... but Manny is not going to land a much faster, more powerful, and unorthodox straight left. Yeah, I guess your story checks out.





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