Comments Thread For: Arum, De La Hoya To Meet on Future Business

[Kagami Taiga]

Top Boy

Oscar prefers Bottom Boy.

[Dr Rumack]

This isn't 1904 and these aren't two heads of state.

Hardly a momentous event for two businessmen to have a meeting.

[ostinato]

Not a fan of Haymon but boy oh boy does he have everyone shook or what? This is necessitated by the need to survive for TR and Golden Boy.

[arraamis]

His "promoters can talk but it's the fighters that do the fighting" quote convinces me that he plans on doing as little business as possible with Golden Boy. Arum is a f'ing snake.

I wonder why no one saw this coming ..... GBP is getting played right out of position and will need to rely on TR for bouts, more and more.

[Mitchell Kane]

Working together was a bigger deal before GBP had it's roster get trimmed.

They've come together on some small fights like Ali-Abregu and Gradovich-Velez, and maybe there are others that coudl be made, but I just don't see a lot of significant mathces to be made outside of Cotto-Alvarez, which fell through.

GBP still has some guys like Lemieux, Matthysse, Linares they could make some fights with, but Matthysse is close to fighting Provodnikov, and Lemieux looks like he's heading towards a title fight with N'Dam.

Not sure what there is to make between the two right now.

Golden Boy's main focus seems to be rebuilding, and they seem to be doing a pretty good job of it.

[Bronx2245]

I feel bad for Oscar. He was drug addict, and Schaefer was the "man behind the curtain", even Hopkins admitted as much. Now he's alienated his main man (Schaefer) and many would blame Schaefer, but what would you do, if you were the "worker bee" and your boss is a cross-dressing crackhead? Now Oscar went running back to "Daddy" and he must have forgotten how Arum really felt about him, when he was Arum's fighter and afterward:

February 23, 2011:

“They’ve got no background in boxing,” Arum, actually 79, said Tuesday of the HBO matchmakers Golden Boy Promotions advises. “They rely on Oscar, who’s a dummy. Oscar is one of the ******est guys I’ve ever met. I’m just saying what it is. The guy is really not smart. Forget just ‘not smart.’ He’s not just even average.

“I remember when we were bringing him up, we’d have to write the whole script for him. Then you give him the script and he’s great, as long as you keep him on the script. To have an original thought in his head …”

Arum, a Harvard-educated lawyer and boxing Hall of Fame member, shook his head as the rest of his dinner party dissolved into laughter Tuesday night at Morton’s Steakhouse in Fort Lauderdale.

Someone commented that De La Hoya’s Golden Boy image certainly made him popular during his prime. For instance, De La Hoya generated a record $700 million in per-per-view sales during his career, and a 7-foot-tall statue of him stands outside the Staples Center in Los Angeles.

“You think that just happened?” Arum said. “I hired women to throw brassieres. Hispanic women, we got them crazy. Once it started, it self-perpetuate[d]. They would come with signs: ‘Marry me, Oscar.’ I had him fight this guy,a French guy who couldn’t fight, [Patrick] Charpentier, one of [WBC chairman Jose] Sulaiman’s mandatories. We did it in the Sun Bowl in El Paso [in June 1998].

“It was a horrible fight but it was great television. They went into the stands with all these women with the signs. There must have been 40,000 to 50,000 people for that fight, and at least half the people were women. That never happened.”

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports...oya-again.html

[JulianQ]

Oscar has to rebuild GBP from the ground up and right now he simply doesn't have enough fighters on contract. He has two options: spend the next few years growing his stable while promoting what will be small cards (compared to the past) or make a deal with the devil and co-produce bigger cards with Top Rank. In time and with exposure of fight cards on HBO and PPV many younger fighters will gravitate to GBP.

I think Oscar is doing the right thing but it's risky doing business with Bob Arum.

[MDPopescu]

It's not about rebuilding here...
These guys and other promoters need to survive about 2 years -- in order to see if "Haymon's experiment" sucombs or not. In case it doesn't, it doesn't.

[Mitchell Kane]

Perhaps it's worth noting here that Top Rank's TruTV fight card on May 15th will feature a fight with GBP prospect Antonio Orozco against Emmanuel Taylor that GBP had originally been scheduled for their last HBO Latino card.