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  • #91
    Originally posted by Evol View Post
    the funny thing is, they say manny had nothing to do with his opponents fighting the way they did. it was all on his opponents to fight like that and manny had nothing to do with it. but when u talk about floyd, they post shiiet like canelo fought like that because of what floyd was doing, etc.
    Like I said, they will discredit whatever accomplishments Manny had achieved just to elevate their idol. They keep saying he's out of PEDS because he's not knocking people out. What they fail or ignore to realize was, Manny has been fighting bigger guys than him after moving up from the feather, who out weight him on fight night. Heck, he couldn't even put Cotto to sleep, and he's there for the taking, what about Diaz? How many fallen foes did Manny actually put to sleep compare to numbers of his victims that he won via TKO? There's a difference if they really are a boxing fans.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by megas30 View Post
      Roach needs to stop focusing on what Floyd does or doesn't do. Focusing on what Floyd does or doesn't do will leave your fighter confused. It is known that Mayweather can switch it up and which way he pleases. Freddie should focus on what Pac brings to fight and seek to minimize any form of weakness that might limit Pac's chances. Pac desperately needs a jab to improve his chances if this fight does take place.
      He mentioned about Floyds flaws which is very little. We all know that Freddie always comes up with a perfect fight plans, it's up to his fighters to execute them. He comes up with a plan to neutralize Floyds defense by jabbing when he was in Oscars corner. Some say Floyd simply neutralized it by countering, I beg the differ. Oscar being Oscar just simply abandoned the fight plan same thing he did against Trinidad. I'm not saying May didn't adjust, he did, but still getting hit with those jabs and obviously getting bothered by it.

      Freddie will come up with a perfect fight plans and it's up to Manny how he's gonna execute them to the tee.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by megas30 View Post
        Roach needs to stop focusing on what Floyd does or doesn't do. Focusing on what Floyd does or doesn't do will leave your fighter confused. It is known that Mayweather can switch it up and which way he pleases. Freddie should focus on what Pac brings to fight and seek to minimize any form of weakness that might limit Pac's chances. Pac desperately needs a jab to improve his chances if this fight does take place.
        Both sides play into strategy. Knowing how Floyd flinches alot when feints are used is a good flaw to capitalize on. Knowing how he loves to pull counter jabs let even slow ass Maidana avoid/counter it. There are patterns to everyone, it is extremely hard to change muscle memory and habits that have been established from decades of use. Scouting is used the same way in every sport for a reason, to observe your opponents patterns and to make adjustments your own patterns.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by tiliheels View Post
          well floyd is better than zab at adjusting his defense..and pac is not as good as adjusting his offense as floyd was that night..floyd had to get his head on zabs left shoulder to be safe..
          zab had nothing after that
          You're comparing Judah and Manny? The only similarity between the two is that they both southpaw, judah doesn't have the footwork of Manny, he doest throw punches in bunches in weird angles. Judah have a weak mentality and gassed out, Manny's toughness gets tougher when he's getting tag, he's mentality is no way close to any of Floyd have ever face before. Finally, Manny never gassed out when he commits fully in training.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by madsweeney View Post
            Both sides play into strategy. Knowing how Floyd flinches alot when feints are used is a good flaw to capitalize on. Knowing how he loves to pull counter jabs let even slow ass Maidana avoid/counter it. There are patterns to everyone, it is extremely hard to change muscle memory and habits that have been established from decades of use. Scouting is used the same way in every sport for a reason, to observe your opponents patterns and to make adjustments your own patterns.
            And that Is what I think Freddie was saying when he said he is doing research on Floyd's most recent fights and future sparring partners. Maidana countered him beautifully when Floyd tried to counter him, too bad I'd didn't land on his chin, but still wobbled him going back to his corner. Now, imagine if Maidana was using his Everlast MX gloves on that particular night? Would it make a huge different outcome? I believe so.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by tiliheels View Post
              u should watch zab use it on floyd...there is no change when u have the dexterity at the waist to go side to side and up and down with head and body movements..
              That was when Floyd was young and still very mobile. Nowadays he does not want to waste his energy unnecessarily. Seems like he's saving his energy to last the full twelve rounds. Don't get me wrong he's still elusive as hell, but he doesn't do all those things he used to do in the ring same as Manny. But make no mistakes, Manny is by far above Judah's level. Judah was heavy on head hunting when he fought May, once he couldn't land his straight left he got frustrated and continue even more on head hunting.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                A preview of what you're going to see a lot of in the fight.








                Oh look, he was fighting a lefty with hands speed same as his and with a great footworks.

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                • #98
                  The last time Floyd faced a Roach gameplan was against Oscar and Oscar would've easily won if he didn't run out of gas in the last 3 rds. A Roach gameplan is dangerous for Floyd.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Bolopunch68 View Post
                    Wrong, as soon as Manny almost took Hattons head and beat the crap out of Miguel the Mayweathers don't want none of Manny, too risky for their child. Testing ain't nothing to do with it as well as Arum being a promoter of Manny for them not wanting to fight Manny, but of course you'll ignore those facts.
                    But right after Pacquiao beat Cotto, Mayweather was at the negotiation table with Manny. It was Manny who walked away from the fight. You make absolutely no sense. So the testing was just a hoax because he knew Pacquiao would walk away? Pacquiao just sent a test request to Mayweather. Does this mean Manny doesn't want the fight?

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                    • Originally posted by FloydvsPac View Post
                      The last time Floyd faced a Roach gameplan was against Oscar and Oscar would've easily won if he didn't run out of gas in the last 3 rds. A Roach gameplan is dangerous for Floyd.
                      he ran out of gas lol

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