GGG is so good that the only person people bring up to beat him is Andre Ward....

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  • Black Barty
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    #51
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    Come on, Chavez backed out because of Arum's contract, not fear of Golovkin. I don't think much of JCC Jr, I think he lost some fights, including to a journeyman Brian Vera, and the Sebastian Zbik fight was not a clear win. I don't know how Chavez Jr not fighting GGG changes anything, he's not that good. What does beating Chavez Jr prove? That's about as good or worse than beating Geale.

    Froch wants nothing to do with GGG? just because of a tongue in cheek comment which he admitted himself was just messing around about it.

    Fighters move up to establish themselves in a higher weight as well, and make a name for themselves, make noise. He doesn't have to go up for a big fight right off the bat. Everyone at 168 would fight him if he actually moves up. Why make an offer to some one who's not a draw and has no title in their weight class?
    No. Froch wants nothing to do with GGG because if he did, he would make an offer. You know as well as I do that GGG would take it in a heartbeat. All Froch would have to do is say he wants it. But he doesn't do that, and that can only mean he doesn't want it.

    Now I'm not saying Froch absolutely owes GGG a fight. But he wants nothing to do with GGG. That's a fact, why try to deny it?

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      #52
      Originally posted by Black Barty
      No. Froch wants nothing to do with GGG because if he did, he would make an offer. You know as well as I do that GGG would take it in a heartbeat. All Froch would have to do is say he wants it. But he doesn't do that, and that can only mean he doesn't want it.

      Now I'm not saying Froch absolutely owes GGG a fight. But he wants nothing to do with GGG. That's a fact, why try to deny it?
      It's clear that Froch wants to cash out against Chavez Jr. He wants no one else.

      You know as well as I do that GGG and everyone from 160-175 wants Chavez Jr. He is their main priority because he is not that good and he has a name. Easy win, easy payday. GGG, Ward, Froch are all craving JCC Jr. Only diff is that Ward and Froch have earned a good easy payday because they fought each other as well as other very good fighters in their weight classes.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Black Barty
        No. Froch wants nothing to do with GGG because if he did, he would make an offer. You know as well as I do that GGG would take it in a heartbeat. All Froch would have to do is say he wants it. But he doesn't do that, and that can only mean he doesn't want it.

        Now I'm not saying Froch absolutely owes GGG a fight. But he wants nothing to do with GGG. That's a fact, why try to deny it?
        ... Froch is a smart straightforward guy: he made it clear that he has no business in fighting Golovkin.

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          #54
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          GGG is not ducking anyone, but no one in his division is ducking him either. It's all business. With Murray, that's 6 top 10 fighters he's fought since 2012, that's 2 years and a couple of months, 6 top 10 fighters in his division stepped up. That doesn't sound like someone who is being ducked to me. Just cause Martinez and Cotto want/wanted(Martinez) bigger names, and Quillin can't fight GGG because of network and promotional issues, doesn't mean he's feared.
          No one is ducking Rigo either. Just because the three biggest names in his division want nothing to do with him doesn't mean he is feared. The other 1118 ranked jr. FWs (according to boxrec) would be glad to fight him. Doesn't sound like someone who is being ducked to me.

          ^ See how ****** that sounds?

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            #55
            Originally posted by MDPopescu
            ... I don't remember with utmost* precision: since Ward announced his comeback, did he reiterated his call to fight Golovkin next?

            (* -- later edit)
            I reiterate this above: did anybody hear Andre Ward mentioning Golovkin anymore -- now when he announced that he's coming back into the ring?

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            • Dr Rumack
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              #56
              Agree with this. Every time someone brings up Ward it's a tacit admission of how good Golovkin is. The guy who's arguably the best fighter on the planet is the only one they can see beating him.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Black Barty
                No one is ducking Rigo either. Just because the three biggest names in his division want nothing to do with him doesn't mean he is feared. The other 1118 ranked jr. FWs (according to boxrec) would be glad to fight him. Doesn't sound like someone who is being ducked to me.

                ^ See how ****** that sounds?
                1. Rigondeaux does not weigh 130lbs 30 days before a fight. And he rehydrates no more than about 4-5lbs.

                2. Nobody is actually ducking Rigondeaux. He brings no money to the table. HBO refuses to air his fights. HBO loves Ward and Froch.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by -Kev-
                  1. Rigondeaux does not weigh 130lbs 30 days before a fight. And he rehydrates no more than about 4-5lbs.

                  2. Nobody is actually ducking Rigondeaux. He brings no money to the table. HBO refuses to air his fights. HBO loves Ward and Froch.
                  Santa Cruz and al haymon are ducking rigo...js

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #59
                    It's so ******ed. He's a bum because Andre Ward would beat him.

                    Andre Ward would beat most fighters. These people must think very highly of Golovkin if Ward is the guy they need to beat him.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by StudentOfDaGame
                      Don't think he beats Ward easy but he definitely has a chance too. One things for sure though he's by FAR the best in his weight class for sure which is why people, including myself, have to pick someone from a higher weight class to do a job on him.
                      Ward is by far the best in his weight class
                      Rigo is by far the best in his weight class
                      Chocolatito is by far the best in his weight class

                      GGG is getting all kinds of different treatment than those 3 fighters

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