Who can be the guy to dominate the heavyweight division

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  • TheEvilSaint
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    #31
    toney's not in the equation anymore cuz he cant even beat rahman. ruslan chagaev has my eye, but i dont think it'll be him. if you say valuev, brock, or fields, i will ***** slap you to the other side of the moon. not briggs. none of the champions. not peter. not williams. i think the guy who has the best chance is wlad. hes got plenty of tools to take him to the top. whether or not he can stay there (or even get there) is yet to be seen.

    the division has been reduced to ashes. even if some guy came up and conquered the division, he would conquer nothing but ashes. he would have his own empire of dirt.

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    • Zaire
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      #32
      Originally posted by supaduck
      Denis Boytsov, right enough looks a contender. His record so far is one of the best early records i've ever seen AND he's young (20).

      http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=267630

      I would hardly call opposition records of 88w-121 lost-5 draws a good early record. There are only 3 people with .500 records on there.

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      • marvdave
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        #33
        nobody I see is the savior..but I feel the guy with the best chance to unify is Brewster.

        He has power,heart and a great chin....oh yeah, and King is his guy.

        I love Wlad's skills, but his chin will fail him like it always does. Rahman is too inconsistent and lazy in the ring. Toney is too fat.

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        • .::|ULTIMATE|::.
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          #34
          Lamon brewster seems to stand the best chance but i dont know if i'd rely on him though. It took a gift decision against Meehan to wise up for his fight against Golota, if he has to be encouraged this early in his career things dont look too good.

          Frankly the heavyweight division will probably continue to be open for a while, and the fights to look at will continue to be at 147 and below for a long time. Which isnt a bad thing cus those guys know how to fight.

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          • joker
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            #35
            James Lights Out Toney will be the most dominant Heavyweight.

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            • Leo Pradun
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              #36
              Originally posted by DiegoFuego
              dude, you're a dumbass if you think Wlad's chin is on the same level as Lewis's. Lewis only went down when he was floored by monstrough shots from McCall and Rahman that would put anybody down.
              say what u want, but lewises chin was on the same level as wlads is, wlads problem is not his chin its his head and confidence, he doent react well to pressure, eversince the sanders fight its been like that....

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              • Leo Pradun
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                #37
                Originally posted by Hitman932
                this question is one of the more pointless ones people ask on this forum, no offense to hte original poster but everyone who knows anything about heavyweight boxing resigned themselves a long time ago to the fact that these guys arent gonna unify the division.

                don king is not gonna just let his guys fight wlad, i foresee wladamir klitschko retiring at some point because flat out people just wont be allowed to fight him. we'll see if lamon brewster has been bluffing after wlad wins the IBF, somehow i feel like hes already gonna have a fight lined up in the 3 weeks between his and wlad/byrd fight, that way he will have his excuse ready.

                wlad is the only guy who can beat everyone else. the other top guys all pose serious style problems for each other in a variety of different ways.
                don king has nothing to do with the division, hes got brewster and valuev for another 3 fights, hes lost rahman and byrd, hes not a factor to be worried about now...

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                • Leo Pradun
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
                  toney's not in the equation anymore cuz he cant even beat rahman. ruslan chagaev has my eye, but i dont think it'll be him. if you say valuev, brock, or fields, i will ***** slap you to the other side of the moon. not briggs. none of the champions. not peter. not williams. i think the guy who has the best chance is wlad. hes got plenty of tools to take him to the top. whether or not he can stay there (or even get there) is yet to be seen.

                  the division has been reduced to ashes. even if some guy came up and conquered the division, he would conquer nothing but ashes. he would have his own empire of dirt.
                  vitali was the man to clean the division up, he had the complete package, the offense the defense, the chin, and he fought his fights smart, wlad is shaky cause of the mental problem he has when hes pressured, but hopefully thats something that will get fixed...

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                  • keystone30pack
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
                    toney's not in the equation anymore cuz he cant even beat rahman. ruslan chagaev has my eye, but i dont think it'll be him. if you say valuev, brock, or fields, i will ***** slap you to the other side of the moon. not briggs. none of the champions. not peter. not williams. i think the guy who has the best chance is wlad. hes got plenty of tools to take him to the top. whether or not he can stay there (or even get there) is yet to be seen.

                    the division has been reduced to ashes. even if some guy came up and conquered the division, he would conquer nothing but ashes. he would have his own empire of dirt.
                    yet you have lamon brewster listed as one of "my boys"

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                    • keystone30pack
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Leo Pradun
                      vitali was the man to clean the division up, he had the complete package, the offense the defense, the chin, and he fought his fights smart, wlad is shaky cause of the mental problem he has when hes pressured, but hopefully thats something that will get fixed...

                      i don't cosnider him to have the whole package , a wooden pinocchio was more fluid than him

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