Floyd Mayweather and Bernard Hopkins – A difference of opinion

[SweetScience]

The Jones injured hand thing was blown out of proportion.

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The Jones injured hand thing was blown out of proportion.

more or less than hopkins being too "green"?

[dino]

mayweather is the best pound for pound fighter...hopkins claim to fame is blown up welterweights

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PBF > Hops. Hops is still riding high on the Tito win, but Tito isn't even that great a boxer, just a very very good slugger. The DLH/Hops fight was meaningless. Hops' record is not any better than PBF's, it's just that he has an impressive # of title defense, but PBF moved up in weight so that neutralizes each other out. Hops during this point of pbf's career was not as accomplished nor did he have any huge wins. Technique and stylewise PBF > HOps.

[SweetScience]

more or less than hopkins being too "green"?

I say both were green, but Roy's "hurt hand" is part of fighting. In a fight injury can happen, like Tyson's last fight. Only that fight had a legitimate injury, providing with evidence.

[Knicksman20]

I really believe Roy hurt his hand in that fight. I have that fight at home & I could count on one hand how many right hands Roy threw with any kinda power. He fought Hops with lead off lefts & went southpaw more than he ever did in any of his fights since. Anyone could definitely make a case for PBF to be number 1 because od how he's challenged himself & moved up in weight & been very successful. Hops hasn't challenged himself with moving up in weight or fighting a serious contender that could give him a tough fight. maybe Eastman might provide a little challenge but the last tough opponent for Hops I remember was Antwun Echols.

[SweetScience]

Fighters that move up in weight is due to the fact, they can't make the weight anymore. They're bodies mature and therefore can't make weight. Fighters like Tszyu and Hopkins, are one weight fighters...just take a look how old they are. They have the same body they had years ago.

Btw, Floyd hasn't did anything special in the last 3 years. I hope he doesn't turnout to be the next Roy Jones, taking easy fights for easy money.

[{BrownBomber}]

No sir you are an idiot, Bernard made a HUGE mistake in fighting Jones the way he did. Bernard like every other victim of Roy's decided to stay on the outside and fight Roy that is a no no, I had the margin a lot more widespread than one round. As for the competition levels. Corley and N'dou WAS decent fights for Mayweather, they were top tier fighters. Bernard has had his moments and Mayweather has had his. Hell Bernard made 3 defense for his titles fighting the same guy over and over and completely dominated him each and every time (Robert Allen).

Mayweathers top tier fighters:
Corley
N'dou
Sosa
Castillo
Chavez
Hernandez
Corrales
Manfredy

All of these fighters are Top level fighters and that cant be denied and Mayweather dominated all of them.

Bernards claim to fame:
Trinidad
De la hoya
Joppy
Echols
Johnson

Now tell me sir, which list looks to be more top level?

I disagree on one guy there.The 2nd fight with Castillo could have gone either way, and the first one.... I dont see how Floyd won that one at all.

[dcgun]

Fair argument. Thought Tsyzu would also have a strong case certainly above Mayweather in terms of accomplishment. Judging by Hopkins performance against Eastman you could argue Tszyu is currently the p4p king.

[Truth]

based on skill id give it to pbf but on accomplishments as well as great skill id say b-hop

That's how I think because Floyd has not accomplished as much as Hopkins has YET.