Comments Thread For: Frank Warren Reflects on Mike Tyson, His Shortcomings

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Perhaps more than any other sport boxing loves to feed off its anniversaries and the one this week which celebrates – if that’s the appropriate word - the bizarre happening in Tokyo 25 years ago when Iron Mike Tyson went into meltdown certainly whets the appetite of fans and fighters alike.

The sight of the self-styled baddest man on the planet suffering one of the most ignominious defeats in boxing history at the hands of James ‘Buster’ Douglas, handpicked as an easy-touch and quoted by the only casino in Las Vegas willing to accept bets at 42-1 against, remains arguably the biggest upset the sport has known.
[Click Here To Read More]

[Straightener]

Frank hates Tyson with a passion

[dammage7]

frank has no problem with chisora who has a history of domestic

[PittyPat]

Frank hates Tyson with a passion

He also hates the Whizzinator with a passion.

[aqf157]

Cowardly

This is a harsh account of Tyson, there are two sides, many sides in fact to his story. What does Warren know? Also to refer to him as "the rapist" is terrible, this happened a long time ago and Tyson served his time. It's not right to label anyone by their past mistakes, it's cowardly.

[Canvas]

Warren is telling the truth here.

[Daddy T]

I think a lot of people trying to sound like they know their **** put too much emphasis on the 'tyson was a bully and if you stood up to him/if he couldn't intimidate you you win' line. That's not what it's about at all. The simple fact is once tyson left Rooney he was there to be beaten by any top fighter. He slipped massively between the spinx and bruno fights.

Tyson was so beatable in his later career because he was simply a shadow of his younger self not because 'if you stood up to him you beat him'

ironically one of the only fights he got himself back into decent shape for was bruno 2.

[IHATEBOBARUM1]

i wish i was in the room when tyson beat up this old lizard.

[Brassangel]

I think a lot of people trying to sound like they know their **** put too much emphasis on the 'tyson was a bully and if you stood up to him/if he couldn't intimidate you you win' line. That's not what it's about at all. The simple fact is once tyson left Rooney he was there to be beaten by any top fighter. He slipped massively between the spinx and bruno fights.

Tyson was so beatable in his later career because he was simply a shadow of his younger self not because 'if you stood up to him you beat him'

ironically one of the only fights he got himself back into decent shape for was bruno 2.

Well said.

There was a difference in his posture, his approach, and even his patience from one fight to the next.

He obliterated Spinks because he had studied his opponent, was ready from the word "go," and had perfect timing. What people also ignore is that Tyson could have kept that up for the entire fight because he was in fantastic shape.

"But he struggled with taller fighters..."

No he didn't. Every fighter was taller than him. Consider that the only 12 round fights he was in, he DOMINATED. He won almost all of the rounds, short of one awkward match against Tillis. Why? Because he could also box, not just punch.

After that night against Spinks, he just hoped to show up, land one clean punch and knock the guy out of there.

I contest that we never got to see a "prime" Mike Tyson. He was a kid when he won the belt, and threw everything away when he should have been hitting his peak.

[kafkod]

Well said.

There was a difference in his posture, his approach, and even his patience from one fight to the next.

He obliterated Spinks because he had studied his opponent, was ready from the word "go," and had perfect timing. What people also ignore is that Tyson could have kept that up for the entire fight because he was in fantastic shape.

"But he struggled with taller fighters..."

No he didn't. Every fighter was taller than him. Consider that the only 12 round fights he was in, he DOMINATED. He won almost all of the rounds, short of one awkward match against Tillis. Why? Because he could also box, not just punch.

After that night against Spinks, he just hoped to show up, land one clean punch and knock the guy out of there.

I contest that we never got to see a "prime" Mike Tyson. He was a kid when he won the belt, and threw everything away when he should have been hitting his peak.

That's a good point. Mike was over the hill by his mid twenties. It was the life style he led that caused him to burn out so quickly. He was a skillful boxer, in his own way. But the skills that Rooney and D'amato schooled him in needed explosive speed and timing to be effective. Late nights, booze and ******* took those natural abilities away from Mike too soon.