Dan Rafael on Stephen Smith radio show.

[bigjavi973]

you said Floyd never headlined a PPV, you get proved wrong and now you are saying something else. see this is why people think you are ****** and have so little respect for you as a poster.

I don't think anyone will generate that much, same as Manny can't make what he will make unless he fights Floyd. we all know this.

damn, if im not mistaken, I did state that I almost forgot about those ppvs.

[Philantro]

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[bigfo0t]

The ONLY one with CLEAR motive to avoid this fight is Floyd.
That has been clear for 5+ years now..

If PAC or Bob has good reason to avoid it, tell us what that reason is.

[Philantro]

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[Pago007]

Pac losses this fight then no more shows in macau - no ppv attraction - pac is relevant now bc he is seen as the guy to maybe beat floyd
After the ko and bradley loss pac luster has faded

[bigfo0t]

Pac losses this fight then no more shows in macau - no ppv attraction - pac is relevant now bc he is seen as the guy to maybe beat floyd
After the ko and bradley loss pac luster has faded

PAC will be retiring soon, losing this fight would barely hurt his popularity or legacy. JMM did more damage to him in the 4th fight than Floyd could ever dream of and PAC still sells big. Maybe not so much on PPV for tune-ups or mismatches, but those fights are held in Macau for a damn good reason- they bring in more money than Vegas could ever offer, even before counting PPV sales.

No way Floyd could ever top what JMM did in the 4th fight, PAC's stock won't drop much.. if he even loses.. also, he was relevant long before he ever became a threat to Floyd.

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[Pago007]

If those macau fights were making so.much money - pac wouldnt be fighting stateside - u see how very seldom Klits or Kessler or Froch come across the pond heck Chris John never cameback bc they were making good money

If u believe Arum is paying pac 20 million a fight with 300k ppvs u are a special kind of.person

And whether u know it or not pac finances are in a mess he has already pushed his retirememt yr back twice he has at least 4 fights left - i see pac fighting til 40 bc Arum robs him

[Robbie Barrett]

Good job Rafael you've kept your spot at the Top Rank buffets.

[bigfo0t]

If those macau fights were making so.much money - pac wouldnt be fighting stateside - u see how very seldom Klits or Kessler or Froch come across the pond heck Chris John never cameback bc they were making good money

If u believe Arum is paying pac 20 million a fight with 300k ppvs u are a special kind of.person

And whether u know it or not pac finances are in a mess he has already pushed his retirememt yr back twice he has at least 4 fights left - i see pac fighting til 40 bc Arum robs him

Do you know anything about Macau? In 2013 Macau's ******** industry was SEVEN TIMES bigger than Vegas'. It has only grown since. It's known as "Vegas on Steroids". The casinos there pay more to host a PAC fight than any casino in Vegas could possibly afford.. that makes up for the low PPV #'s (not to mention the ad revenue from TV broadcasts in China), but he has only fought there twice, when he really "needed" to, in other words, when they knew the fight wouldn't do well on PPV (Rios, Algieri).

Also.. your arguement about "pac finances are in a mess" contradicts your point that Manny doesn't want the fight.. wouldn't that suggest he does indeed WANT or NEED this fight??