Comments Thread For: Chavez: Arum Can Says 1000 Things, He Won't Stop Me!

[Thutch2412]

I call BS, Arum would have already taken this fool to court and I doubt wed hear about Fonfara vs Chavez Jr or let them negotiate a potential with Froch and now a fight with Fonfara.

[Real Talk85]

That he probably knows more about laws a contracts due to his education,rather rather than some overhyped bum,who's living off of his fathers name,and showed up stoned,to the biggest fight of his career.

If he had a legit contract we wouldn't be having this conversation. Arundel would have simply stopped chavez from pursuing any other option, like Goosen did Ward.
Chavez lawyers wouldn't have any form of an argument.

It's obvious that Arum has no valid contract or he would have stopped Chavez who is his number 2 money maker from fighting out of house. Stop being a groupie.

[SCEN3RY]

I agree with most of what you said. Promoters invest way more into a prospect than they get in return the first few years. It's usually not a problem when a fighter is nothing more than a contender & the cost is being fronted by the promoter. It's when they start to make good money & the promoter wants to make a return on investment when things go south. I can see both sides, if I were a fighter I would want to maximize my earnings as well. Tough to just tell a fighter to stay loyal just because. Anyways, good luck in arbitration Junior.

Well said. As long as Chavez isn't truly under contract then he has the right to do with his career as he pleases, be it leave TR or even resign. But I get TR's frustration; after building an attraction they don't want to see someone else [Al Haymon] swoop in and reap the rewards of their work. Hopefully the courts rule correctly and if Chavez has to fulfill one more fight, well it's only one more fight and hopefully it's better than Fonfara, cause that just sucks.

[Real Talk85]

That he probably knows more about laws a contracts due to his education,rather rather than some overhyped bum,who's living off of his fathers name,and showed up stoned,to the biggest fight of his career.

You're Filipino aren't you? And don't lie either.

[Fetta]

jr wants to go up against a harvard lawyer who graduated cum laude and has over 50 years experience... good luck.

So they stopped giving law degrees after Arum?

Not saying hell win in court if that happens cause i dont know contract stipulations but its very naive of you to think like this

[theocdog]

I just hope Chavez lawyers the **** up before he does anything crazy. this is Arum we are talking about. He hasnt been here this long for being ******.

[MC Hammer]

jr wants to go up against a harvard lawyer who graduated cum laude and has over 50 years experience... good luck.

Haymon wouldn't be involved if it were that air tight.And laws have changed over the course of 5 decades, most businesses wouldn't hire anyone with that much experience, Bob probably still thinks Jim Crow exists.

[Hougigo]

Well, nothing has happened yet... starting to think nothing will

[DoktorSleepless]

This whole Arum/Chavez dispute has been going on for at least seven or eight months.. If Arum truly had a contract with Chavez Jr. like he claimed, he would have already gone to court and stopped Chavez/Fonfara from being made or even being negotiated if he wasn't involved. The fact that he didn't tells me that he is talking out of the side of his ass again and has no legitimate claim to another Chavez Jr. fight.

They've been in court for several months now. It's a long process.

[gamesworn]

How quickly do we bite the hand that feeds us?...

In all honesty, outside of his name, this young man had zero chance at a successful career at this level without TR. It was Arum who carefully crafted him, through strategic match making and great promotion, into an actual legit attraction. With that said... I'll have to side with the old man on this one.

I agree with most of what you said. Promoters invest way more into a prospect than they get in return the first few years. It's usually not a problem when a fighter is nothing more than a contender & the cost is being fronted by the promoter. It's when they start to make good money & the promoter wants to make a return on investment when things go south. I can see both sides, if I were a fighter I would want to maximize my earnings as well. Tough to just tell a fighter to stay loyal just because. Anyways, good luck in arbitration Junior.

This ^^

If your contract with Arum needs 1 more fight, then do it. Stop wasting your time fighting with Arum. Stop burning bridges!

I'm Chavez Sr. fan, but I'm with Arum here.