Muhammad Ali underrated?

[jas]

Elroy, to uphold the forums integrity I have no other choice but to report you for consistent denigration of a boxing ambassador, hero, role model and legend whose name will forever be etched at the forefront of boxing history.

[Ray Corso]

Ali is regarded by boxings inside people as the first or second greatest heavy ever! He is a fighter in and out of the ring for peoples rights and freedom.
He is the most recognized man in the world still!!!!! Thats amazing but he is more than an ex athlete who was heavyweight champ.


Elroy sonny if you don't agree that Ali is the greatest thats ok but you need to learn not to degrade people. It makes your point of view sound immature.
Grow up sonny, I personally am tired of asking you to act like an adult instead of a fan at ic!
Ray

[Ryn0]

He is widely regarded worldwide as the most overrated boxer in history because that's exactly what he is. An almost entirely manufactured career with gifts and assistances everywhere, on the receiving end of non-stop pummellings, disgusting run and hug boxing style with no power, overmatched cruiser opponents. The term "bummy" might not apply to Ali exactly, that is a bit harsh, but it would be a closer analysis than "the greatest".

Almost polar opposite to the rest of the world, in the US, he is regarded as being either the or one of the greatest boxers of all time. A mythological construct which forms the basis of one of the biggest lies ever maintained in sports history, an elaborate pursuit of nationalist glory and nostalgic hero worship.

One thing is for certain..

Nobody who has actually watched the performance of Muhammad Ali, whole fights, whole career, can possibly reach the conclusion that he, or any of his opponents were anywhere near the best boxers.

The time taken to review them is many hours of your life you will have to struggle through and never get back. But is absolutely necessary torture to attain the true understanding of the myth.

'widely regarded' I think you need to retool your definitions. This may be your opinion but it is wrong, far off base.

I consider Muhammad Ali to be the greatest Heavyweight of all time based upon his accomplishments in his era. I do not think he is unbeatable, I think there are several 'lesser' heavyweights that stylistically give him huge problems. If I brought up their names people would go crazy because they are 'lesser' heavyweights.

Comparing fighters across eras is useless because had Ali, Marciano, Dempsey, Louis existed today they would benefit from the extra nutrition, training that modern day fighters have access too. Marciano would likely weight over 200lbs if he existed today because of the type of training he would do. I also think he would do very well in any era because of his ability to get in on the inside, many heavyweights today cannot fight there.

I don't know where you live or where you have been but 'rest of the world' probably translates to inside your brain.

[SalimShady1212]

When I made the thread about Hagler, I was being serious. No need to be so rude.

[Weltschmerz]

I'm a big fan of the 70s heavyweights and was wondering why Foreman, Norton, and Frazier are always looked upon as the icons and poor Muhammad Ali never gets a mention. He fought the Liston, Shavers, Patterson. Lost a few decisions but won the trilogies, why do you think he's the least praised?

No idea where you got this from, or whether you simply make it up.

[buge]

No idea where you got this from, or whether you simply make it up.