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i think rjj is the best p4p fighter of the 90's and the early part of the millenium ...alot of people also felt this way until he lost to tarver and johnson.. to me it makes not difference on the legacy that he has left boxing but the fact is to alot of poeple it changed their thoughts about rjj and his legacy i want to know how would his legacy be different had he retired after the 1st. tarver fight ??? ..
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It wouldn't of been different for me, because I always knew he had no chin since seeing him rocked badly by journeyman Reggie Miller (on Eurosport channel, not shown in US and never replayed).
There's a reason why he avoided big punchers like McClellan (beat Jones in 1988), Jackson (see what he did to Norris and Graham?), Benn and Eubank (disabled opponents), Liles (gave Jones a standing eight-count in 1988) and Nunn (see what he did to Kalambay?).Last edited by JuicyJuice; 03-18-2006, 04:07 PM. -
Exactly, is Ali's legacy tainted by his losses to Berbick and Holmes... I don't think so, the same could be said for many boxers, it's just a case of knowing when to stop and those few fights should have no baring on his legacy. However if he does do a Holyfield and carry on fighting for a couple of years, he may well indeed hurt his record and legacy...Comment
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Considering that Roids "Legacy" was 100% built on his potential and fan perception rather than actual accomplishments....I'd say his legacy would be much stronger if he would have quit earlier in his career. He should have retired after the Vinny Paz fight, I think that was his last successful steroid cycle.Originally posted by shemmueComment
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haha the haters on here are absolutly pathetic, its embrassing actullyComment
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Roy is one of the greatest boxers ever. His haters are gay.
You can either love him for the show he put on in his fights(Fans who are boxers themselves) or hate him for that(Skinny pc nerds with ***** ****). He made his opponents look like nobody's. Look at the Toney fight!Comment
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his legacy would be different. he was unbeaten until the Tarver fight, except for a dq. the haters are pathetic man.Comment
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no kidding. "roy fought nobody"
more like roy fought good opposition and made them look like nobody's
just look at the way he embrassed james toney, who was undefeated at the timeComment
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not much
I've noticed that a lot of boxing fans practice what can be called "revisionist history", meaning for example that they evaluate the skills and career of a great fighter 1 way up until he has a notable loss or 2, and then sometimes go full circle and re-evaluate his whole career and history if he has a devastating or shocking loss. Of course it's ok to re-evaluate boxer's careers, but it doesn't show much wisdom to call a fighter great, a pound for pound champion, etc. until something goes wrong, and then to turn right around and say that he was never all that hot to begin with, he only beat bums until he ran into a certain fighter, etc. This happened with Charles "Sonny" Liston back in the 1960s and happened again with Roy Jones Jr. after his losses to Tarver and Glen Johnson.
To me it makes more sense to view great athletes as just ordinary men who have exceptional physical skills rather than as something close to gods who can do no wrong. That way when they fail it's not such a blow to our sense of who they were to begin with.
Roy Jones Jr. is an all-time great, an athlete and boxer on the level with Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali. Perhaps his prime didn't last quite as long as that of Robinson, but no matter how he looks now in the ring, he totally dominated whatever division that he was fighting in for a long time, in excess of 10 years perhaps.Comment
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Roy Jones career's is and always will be debatable, but he was the best P4P fighter of 90's no doubt.Comment
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