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Ali was KO'd by Henry Cooper and Dundee cheated to save him

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  • #11
    Originally posted by JoeTheRock7
    I can agree with the cheating but i can not agree with Toney Lewis and Tyson all knocking out Ali in rounds 2 5 and 8. ****** man Tyson i can agree in 8 but not Lewis in 2 and James Toney in 5 you must be kdding.
    No Im not kidding at all.

    Ali was an attacker. He never backed down, and never stopped trying to land punches.

    Toney would dissect him and counterpunch him to death for a TKO. Ali was fast, but he was also predictable and had poor defense that he got away with because of speed and reflexes. Toney is not as fast as Ali was, but he's more accurate, a wizard at counterpunching and very sneaky. Ali would slow down from missing punches, and James stays the same rounds 1-12. By round 4 Ali would not be fast enough to lean back from Toneys punches and would get sliced and diced. In round 5 Toney would be landing at will and Ali would be rescued.

    Lewis was just far too big a puncher. I know people will compare Lewis to the young Foreman...but Lewis is far quicker and hit just as hard. Lewis would catch Ali early and take him out when he was hurt instead of swinging imaginary frying pans at him with his eyes closed like Foreman did.

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    • #12
      Devil.. Your obviously biased, Ali was the best heavyweight of all time

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Parody
        Devil.. Your obviously biased, Ali was the best heavyweight of all time
        I like Ali, but he was overrated. Greatest Sports figure of all time no doubt, most legendary fighter of all time no doubt, but not the greatest fighter.

        De La Hoya will take over those titles when he retires by the way.

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        • #14
          I think you're wrong and Ali could take a punch defiately top 5 chin of all time.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by JoeTheRock7
            I think you're wrong and Ali could take a punch defiately top 5 chin of all time.
            Getting KO'd by Mike Tyson does not mean you have a weak chin, it means you let him land a punch.

            Getting stopped by Toney does not mean you have a weak chin, it means the referee or your cornerman doesn't want to go to hell.

            Getting KO'd by Lewis does not mean you have a weak chin, it means you fought wrecklessly.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by SturmRules
              why would james toney KO ali faster then tyson lol?
              i dont think devil is the right guy to ask if you want a logicall answer.

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              • #17
                interesting topic i gotta look at that fight before i can comment intelligent like and even then i might sound like a moron lol

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                • #18
                  I agree that it wasn't funny

                  I agree that Dundee's antics were cause for immediate disqualification. Of course we will never know if Cooper would have stopped Ali if Dundee had not pulled that bullsh** stunt, but Ali was vulnerable to left hooks, and it finally caught up to him many years later when he got decked by Frazier in their 1st fight. For some reason that was never clear to me, Ali got preferential treatment by referees and judges over and over again throughout his career. I remember watching the Ali-Jimmy Young fight and being astonished at how easily Young avoided getting hit by Ali that day, and just as astonished and disgusted at the decision. Nowadays, any fighter that fought the way Ali did against Young would lose a decision by 5 or 6 points.

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                  • #19
                    Now Toney could beat Ali. This Toney worshiping is getting out of hand

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                    • #20
                      ..henry cooper...dat knock down.. was a lucky punch..the rest of the fight he got a beating ..there was blood splashin everywhere...all over the spectators..damn it was messy..

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