Will winning convincingly tonight on HBO make Gilberto Ramirez a headliner?

[Boxing1836]

He is fighting a decent opponent tonight, if he wins tonight, is he going to be a headliner? Will HBO make him a maine vent for one of their cards? I mean he is mexican, 23, and exciting. I feel like it should be a given

[Eastcoast]

Against who? He'd be a dangerous tune-up for Ward though.

[Boxing1836]

Against who? He'd be a dangerous tune-up for Ward though.

MAxim Vlasov, he is not that good(he is slooww), but he is a decent tune up

[VAGAB0ND]

Gilberto Ramirez vs. George Groves or Gilberto Ramirez vs. Marco Antonio Rubio (He's moving up from 160) in Los Angeles would be good main events to to build his drawing power a bit before he moves on to the big names at 168.

I think Top Rank is moving him at a great pace. He's still only 23 years old. Take it one step at a time.

[KRITKL]

Maybe co main on a BAD card. If he looks good I'm sure they'll try to get the hype train rolling.

[Eastcoast]

MAxim Vlasov, he is not that good(he is slooww), but he is a decent tune up

I meant who would Rameriz be able to headline on HBO against? The options at SMW are slim. For the same reason as Golovkin, he won't get Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Sturm, Steiglitz. DeGale, Groves are busy, and all the other top guys are Haymon (off-limits).

I was also referring to Rameriz as an opponent for Ward in one of Ward's tune up fights. I would actually take a chance on a fight like that if I was TR. Ward is rusty right now. A caller on the Kim/Montoya podcast couple weeks ago was talking about Ward getting dropped a couple times recently in Kings Gym, and that's why his return is looking April. When you stay out of hard sparring for an extended period of time, your punch resistance drops.

TR should take a chance and jump on Ward early in his return. If he wins, Rameriz shoots past Chavez as a Mexican star. If he loses, it's no big deal. He's young and it'd be expected. Even if Ward smokes Gilberto, he doesn't hit hard enough to wreck the kid like Froch could.

[Rostov Papa]

It largely depends on his performance. If it's a boring UD, then nah.

He'll actually fare better if it's a competitive war, and he knicks out a UD. It will make him look more vulnerable for other top guys, AND Hbo will want to capitalize off the action.

If he dominates, and gets an early KO - then he'll most likely get another undercard slot on a big bill. Then if he wins that, and either looks dominant/KO, or exciting/close fight, he'll headline a card.


SMW desperately needs some new faces, and fresh blood.

[richardt]

His defense sucks like hell. He leaves himself open too much at this point and will get caught flush at some point in the near future and fall hard. Lets see him "win convincingly" against Andre Dirrell or Saiko Bika, not the guy tonight who no one picks him to lose against and then he can be a headliner. And that is a big IF. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to pump sunshine up the asses of people who know better.

[_original_]

His defense sucks like hell. He leaves himself open too much at this point and will get caught flush at some point in the near future and fall hard. Lets see him "win convincingly" against Andre Dirrell or Saiko Bika, not the guy tonight who no one picks him to lose against and then he can be a headliner. And that is a big IF. Anyone saying otherwise is trying to pump sunshine up the asses of people who know better.

I agree, I know the guy is young and could improve but I just don't see anything that impressive right now from him. I also think his punchers are pretty slow. Seems like a good kid, though.

[_original_]

I meant who would Rameriz be able to headline on HBO against? The options at SMW are slim. For the same reason as Golovkin, he won't get Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Sturm, Steiglitz. DeGale, Groves are busy, and all the other top guys are Haymon (off-limits).

I was also referring to Rameriz as an opponent for Ward in one of Ward's tune up fights. I would actually take a chance on a fight like that if I was TR. Ward is rusty right now. A caller on the Kim/Montoya podcast couple weeks ago was talking about Ward getting dropped a couple times recently in Kings Gym, and that's why his return is looking April. When you stay out of hard sparring for an extended period of time, your punch resistance drops.

TR should take a chance and jump on Ward early in his return. If he wins, Rameriz shoots past Chavez as a Mexican star. If he loses, it's no big deal. He's young and it'd be expected. Even if Ward smokes Gilberto, he doesn't hit hard enough to wreck the kid like Froch could.

Didn't hear about Ward getting dropped in sparring, that's pretty interesting. How credible is the source, though?

Anyways, I think that would be a bad choice to face Andre Ward, he'd absolutely dominate Ramirez even with the long lay off.