Comments Thread For: SHO's Espinoza: Arum 'Not Truthful' on Mayweather Talks

[Spoon23]

So to those who think Floyd is rich and doesn't need to fight Pac. Just tell him to retire then.

Coz last time I checked this is prize fighting. It's a sport were 2 people duke it out. If he is contented with his money then just tell him to retire.

But I have to say if you are truly a boxing fan. You will forever despise this poser who is all bark, and tells the world he wants pac, but actually as some of you flowmos say he dont need it coz his rich.. Jeez you guys are not fight fans, but brainless minions haha

Love your gayazz fighter. His an all time ducker.

[fightnight1]

Floyd is hiding under a rock.

You can come out now Floyd!!!
All the fighters that were calling you out have moved on!!!!

[GRUSTLER]

I'm pretty certain all the fighter-related terms are agreed in principle even before TV rights and PPV splits (between networks) are negotiated. Network big wigs wouldn't waste their time meeting together. And I'm a firm believer that Floyd & Pac's terms were the most difficult to negotiate...more than the TV. SHO & HBO wouldn't blow their TV deal, especially when the Lewis-Tyson deal is there as a model to amend.

So, what you are essentially saying is that IF Floyd isn't happy with the TV deal, then the fight is off. Then it would be Floyd's fault indeed. Boxing fans will NOT be happy with that! CBS & Time Warner won't be happy with that either.

It always kills me how you guys come up with so many assumptions to come to a conclusion. Have you ever negotiated or worked on a contract before? I have many times and the deal ain't done until all business is handled. Manny and Mayweather can't sign squat until their affiliate networks have agreed because they are apart of the business structure. So Pacquiao and Arum telling Mayweather to sign the contract is bull$#!t unless they want to get sued.

[Boxer777Prime]

Bob Arum has made so many big fights over the years, I have no reason to doubt him. He's been making a lot of public comments and all the Mayweather crew can say is "not true".

At no point did Espinoza say it's Arum holding the fight up. At no point did he say that Pac is the one not willing to fight. Everything points to Mayweather preventing the fight from happening.

When someone is defensive like Espinoza, they really don't know how to fight back. They have nothing to fight back with because they know Mayweather is at fault.

[MindBat]

The truth always rises the surface when Flop Arum tries to make it seem like Floyd Don't want it. Hes been puttin' both big bunion special ed tennis shoes in his mouth since 2009.

Yeah, Manny does "... get queasy when he sees a needle 'cause the nurse couldn't find his vein back in 2009."

and

"The new stadium is almost, definitely, somewhat, certainly, half-way done. We're just waitin' for the paint to dry

[GRUSTLER]

The problem is Pacquiao is letting Arum use him to try and put pressure on Mayweather to get their way when actually things are not what Arum says. Honestly I think this time Arum gets exposed big time because now he is naming people who are starting to speak up.

[MindBat]

So to those who think Floyd is rich and doesn't need to fight Pac. Just tell him to retire then.

Coz last time I checked this is prize fighting. It's a sport were 2 people duke it out. If he is contented with his money then just tell him to retire.

But I have to say if you are truly a boxing fan. You will forever despise this poser who is all bark, and tells the world he wants pac, but actually as some of you flowmos say he dont need it coz his rich.. Jeez you guys are not fight fans, but brainless minions haha

Love your gayazz fighter. His an all time ducker.

Why did Manny duck that PED needle again? 'Cause he was afraid of needles back then, but now he's over it and is now willing to have his blood, urine, and feces tested?

[brown_knight06]

The truth will come out. Everything points to Mayflower ducking Pacman. Asking around, casuls are waking up to this. Knly certain individuals support such a cowardly man. The deadline is almost here, we shall soon find out if this fight becomes reality.

[Spoon23]

The truth will come out. Everything points to Mayflower ducking Pacman. Asking around, casuls are waking up to this. Knly certain individuals support such a cowardly man. The deadline is almost here, we shall soon find out if this fight becomes reality.

Yup health comes first that is why he is fighting the guy he already beat. Amazing guy. First ever in history to be called the best ducker Eva'

[Mayweatherfan11]

Showtime exec: Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao contracts not crafted yet

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A deal apparently is in the eyes of the beholder.

By the standards of Manny Pacquiao’s promoter, Bob Arum, a long-awaited super-fight between Pacquiao and unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. is but a signature away.

“We’re all done,” Arum told Fight Hub TV and others while in Colorado this week. “We’ve signed everything, agreed on all the terms. As far as we know, we’ve been told by the highest authority that Mayweather’s people have agreed, that the networks have agreed.

“But like they say, you can’t do a play about Hamlet without Hamlet, and Hamlet -- meaning Mayweather -- has not signed on.”

Not so fast, and not at all accurate, counters Showtime Executive Vice President Stephen Espinoza, who is negotiating alongside his superiors and HBO executives to craft a joint-broadcasting deal for what’s expected to be the most lucrative pay-per-view bout in history.

Showtime has two fights remaining in its agreement with Mayweather. Pacquiao fights for HBO.

“Arum has been saying a lot of inaccuracies,” Espinzoa told the Los Angeles Times in a telephone interview Saturday.

“Here’s where we are: There is no contract awaiting Floyd’s signature, and Bob Arum knows that. Floyd has represented to [CBS/Showtime Chairman] Leslie Moonves, to [his manager] Al Haymon and to me personally that he wants to make the fight, and we are making very good progress. But there are no contracts. There are open issues between Showtime and HBO that are being resolved.

“No one is waiting on Floyd, and for Bob Arum to say otherwise is a misrepresentation of the facts.

“Discussions are ongoing. We’ve made significant progress. And Floyd has given us clear directions to make the fight.”

In a conversation with The Times earlier this week, Arum said that while attorneys are ready to draft contracts, it would likely take into this coming week before anything can be presented to the fighters to sign.

With issues like splitting profits, the fight replay, handling on-air talent and other details as part of the challenge of handling a joint broadcast arrangement between rival premium networks that hasn’t been done since 2002 (Lennox Lewis-Mike Tyson), Espinoza declined to reveal what deal points remain unfinished.

Pacquiao told The Times earlier this week that he wants an agreement struck by the end of January. On Friday, he visited in London with England’s Amir Khan to discuss what is clearly a backup option.

If the deal is close by Jan. 31, it’s believed Pacquiao will wait.

The fighters have already agreed on the purse split, a drug-testing plan, a May 2 date and the MGM Grand in Las Vegas as the venue.

“We’re about halfway there,” Espinoza said of the television prong. “How long it takes to get to the finish line is anyone’s guess and I wouldn’t want to speculate.

“But we are making progress. We’re confident it’s going in the right direction.”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sports...124-story.html