Perspective on Klit, and the HW division

[thebigkabosh]

He looked ok in his last fight, and he was obviously trying to make a good impression to HBO and the U.S. fans.

He wanted to finally deliver a decent performance, and he did.

It was a nice knockout.

But as I watched the fight, I shook my head and thought to myself 'how did HW boxing become so bad?'

The fact that Pulev was the number 1 contender, and was widely regarded as Klit's toughest test for a long time, just speaks volumes to me on how weak this division is.

Let's be brutally honest here.

Pulev showed heart but not much skill, waving his left like a wand, no movement whatsoever, dropping his right arm completely open for left hooks

he's not in any way a good fighter.

Klit had to excessively hold on to Pulev to avoid any exchanges. He was even rocked early by a light jab, showing his weak punch resistance.

Klit is an ok HW, but his competition is extremely weak.


Would Pulev have troubled many HW champs of the past?

I'll say no, definitely not.

So we can give credit to Klit for finally looking halfway decent, and coming in good shape at his age, and putting in an ok performance.

But this division is weak, and he did not beat a good fighter in his last fight.

His next fight is against a highly ranked contender in Byrant Jennings who only started boxing 5 years ago and is a full time mechanic by trade.

I watched his last fight against an out of shape Cuban and he did not look good. He only won because the opponent tired out and was deducted a point. Still even a draw would have been fair.

This guy is the highest ranked voluntary that Klit can face and is considered one of the top HWs in the world at the moment. This again speaks volumes on how bad the HW division currently is.


Thoughts?

[thebigkabosh]

What was your previous username on boxingscene before you were banned?

Never been on this site before but I've seen you posting on ESB. You went under the user "Freedom2013" over there and were a complete Klittard just like you are here. It seems that you have a ton of other alts as well

You pathetically blocked me because you got sore I stated the truth that this HW era is weak.

I would never stoop to that level of cowardice only reserved for Klittards.

[bluebeam]

it's definitely a horrible era for heavyweights, but it's not wlad's fault.

he can only fight who's in his era

[thebigkabosh]

it's definitely a horrible era for heavyweights, but it's not wlad's fault.

he can only fight who's in his era

Yes of course. It is not exactly Klit's fault he fought in a bad era but then we can't pretend that he is a great HW or compare him to the true ATGs for fighting in such a terrible time for HWs.

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I think part of it is exposure. The American fans see very little of the HW division. And to be honest, what HW era has been awesome?

In the 1990s, you had Bowe, Lewis, Tyson, Morrison, Golota, Tua, Holyfield, etc. Were they all all time greats? Not at all imo. However, we saw them fighter regularly. We don't see many HWs fighter that often anymore. Europe has taken it over.

I suppose the 1970s was pretty strong. Lots of good HWs but still. It's tough to say what any of these guys does against one another if they actually ever fought. To say there are no good HWs out there is pushing it. The big boys have always been the weakest division really. They started out glorified but in past decades, we know the best fights are in the lighter weight classes.

And l stand by Wladimir. He has faced everybody and beaten them. He's not perfect but who is?

[Mr.Fantastic]

it's definitely a horrible era for heavyweights, but it's not wlad's fault.

he can only fight who's in his era

No it's not, it's just that america isn't the dominating force and people can't stomach that.

[thebigkabosh]

I think part of it is exposure. The American fans see very little of the HW division. And to be honest, what HW era has been awesome?

In the 1990s, you had Bowe, Lewis, Tyson, Morrison, Golota, Tua, Holyfield, etc. Were they all all time greats? Not at all imo. However, we saw them fighter regularly. We don't see many HWs fighter that often anymore. Europe has taken it over.

I suppose the 1970s was pretty strong. Lots of good HWs but still. It's tough to say what any of these guys does against one another if they actually ever fought. To say there are no good HWs out there is pushing it. The big boys have always been the weakest division really. They started out glorified but in past decades, we know the best fights are in the lighter weight classes.

And l stand by Wladimir. He has faced everybody and beaten them. He's not perfect but who is?

You are beating around the bush.

Do you think Kubrat Pulev would be a ring Magazine #1 contender in the 70s,80s or 90s?

Do you think any of the previous champs from these eras would lose this guy.

Imo I would say definitely not.

Bowe, Lewis, Tyson, Morrison, Golota, Tua, Holyfield, etc.

Just on that list of 90s fighters alone, I see several ATGs and HOFers.

On Klit's resume are there any ATGs or even HOF level fighters, or anything even remotely close to even that?

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Stop making the exact same thread over and over.

You want the '70s American heavyweight scene back? Go watch cruiserweights fight at rural casinos.

[low blows]

You are beating around the bush.

Do you think Kubrat Pulev would be a ring Magazine #1 contender in the 70s,80s or 90s?

Do you think any of the previous champs from these eras would lose this guy.

Imo I would say definitely not.



Just on that list of 90s fighters alone, I see several ATGs and HOFers.

On Klit's resume are there any ATGs or even HOF level fighters, or anything even remotely close to even that?

If Riddick Bowe is a hall of fame member. Then David Haye may become one and a god forbid Chris Byrd could make it down the road. The hall has piss poor standards so junior Klit could have defeated two future hall of fame members. He also may defeat Marco Huck who could be another....

[Tony Trick-Pony]

You are beating around the bush.

Do you think Kubrat Pulev would be a ring Magazine #1 contender in the 70s,80s or 90s?

Do you think any of the previous champs from these eras would lose this guy.

Imo I would say definitely not.



Just on that list of 90s fighters alone, I see several ATGs and HOFers.

On Klit's resume are there any ATGs or even HOF level fighters, or anything even remotely close to even that?

Eh. Holyfield, Tyson and Lewis belong in the HOF but the rest I don't believe do although I think Bowe is getting in. He never impressed me. And well, how many of them made 18 successful defenses? It's not like Wlad has not fought number one contenders and all the division can throw at him.

As far as Pulev, I don't know, but how many undeserving challengers got shots in the 1990s? Remember Michael Bentt? A 10-1(5) gets a shot? Sure, he pulled off the upset but still. Axel Shulz? How did he earn a shot? Jesse Ferguson? Bert Cooper? Oliver McCall? Yeah. Whole pack of winners. Two of the bigger fights of the 1990s in he HW division was Holyfield fighting over-the-hill Foreman and Holmes. Yeah. So exciting.