Latest interview from Bob Arum

[ReIoaded]

As far as I know, Bob Arum has never had to compete in a boxing ring. So what was his reason for "lying yesterday"?

I don't know why he would say that. But it's definitely come back to haunt him and something he has to live with for the rest of his life as a boxing promoter.

But again, in the case of Floyd vs Pacquiao. Arum is going to make a killing. He is going to make a crap load of money for probably less work than he's ever done in his entire career.

Floyd wants to be Lead Promoter. All Arum has to do is sit on the sidelines and let Floyd live out his fantasy of being the next Bob Arum and he's going to make a ton of money off the cut he takes from Manny's guarantee and PPV percentages.

Let's just think about that. In this case who is easier to believe? The guy who does less work for more money? Or the guy who has to get in the ring against Pacquiao?

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I don't know why he would say that. But it's definitely come back to haunt him and something he has to live with for the rest of his life as a boxing promoter.

But again, in the case of Floyd vs Pacquiao. Arum is going to make a killing. He is going to make a crap load of money for probably less work than he's ever done in his entire career.

Floyd wants to be Lead Promoter. All Arum has to do is sit on the sidelines and let Floyd live out his fantasy of being the next Bob Arum and he's going to make a ton of money off the cut he takes from Manny's guarantee and PPV percentages.

Let's just think about that. In this case who is easier to believe? The guy who does less work for more money? Or the guy who has to get in the ring against Pacquiao?

So why did Pac's side duck the first negotiation. You telling me that the lure of that much money to sit back and watch wasn't enough for Bob to persuade Pac to take random blood tests up to 14 days before the fight?

[ReIoaded]

So why did Pac's side duck the first negotiation. You telling me that the lure of that much money to sit back and watch wasn't enough for Bob to persuade Pac to take random blood tests up to 14 days before the fight?

That's a conversation I am sure we both engaged in with other fans back in 2009. We each have our own biased interpretation on what happened and I'm pretty sure we are firm on what we believe and going there will lead to nowhere.

The fact of the matter is, Pacquiao is in debt. Arum has to do less work and will still get paid 27% of the biggest prize fight in history. There will be a big banner at the MGM Grand and at the top of the banner it will say Mayweather Promotions and below it will be the Top Rank logo playing B-Side and Arum gets paid the same.

These guys have nothing to lose while Floyd could very well be taking the biggest risk of his career. I think you are smart enough to recognize the practicality from which I am basing my talking points.

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That's a conversation I am sure we both engaged in with other fans back in 2009. We each have our own biased interpretation on what happened and I'm pretty sure we are firm on what we believe and going there will lead to nowhere.

The fact of the matter is, Pacquiao is in debt. Arum has to do less work and will still get paid 27% of the biggest prize fight in history. There will be a big banner at the MGM Grand and at the top of the banner it will say Mayweather Promotions and below it will be the Top Rank logo playing B-Side and Arum gets paid the same.

These guys have nothing to lose while Floyd could very well be taking the biggest risk of his career. I think you are smart enough to recognize the practicality from which I am basing my talking points.

I'm certainly smart enough to know not to trust Bob Arum. Like I said, if the fight doesn't come off and he proves it was Mayweather's fault, not just by saying it, but by releasing the contract, I will be the first to call Mayweather a coward. I can't believe you are actually defending someone who held negotiations with himself at one point, and also claimed he didn't know how to get in contact with Mayweather's side after it came out that those supposed bilateral negotiations were a farce. His word should NEVER be accepted.

I would encourage you not to believe Mayweather more than Bob, but rather to distrust both until some solid proof is presented.

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I'm certainly smart enough to know not to trust Bob Arum. Like I said, if the fight doesn't come off and he proves it was Mayweather's fault, not just by saying it, but by releasing the contract, I will be the first to call Mayweather a coward. I can't believe you are actually defending someone who held negotiations with himself at one point, and also claimed he didn't know how to get in contact with Mayweather's side after it came out that those supposed bilateral negotiations were a farce. His word should NEVER be accepted.

I would encourage you not to believe Mayweather more than Bob, but rather to distrust both until some solid proof is presented.

That is the exact stance Im taking , there is just too many articles being twisted , too many conflicting aspects , and for the life of me if Floyd was not onboard why would lawyers be going over papers and why would the powerful CEOS of these companys be still grinding out a deal , it just does not add up .

[ReIoaded]

I'm certainly smart enough to know not to trust Bob Arum. Like I said, if the fight doesn't come off and he proves it was Mayweather's fault, not just by saying it, but by releasing the contract, I will be the first to call Mayweather a coward. I can't believe you are actually defending someone who held negotiations with himself at one point, and also claimed he didn't know how to get in contact with Mayweather's side after it came out that those supposed bilateral negotiations were a farce. His word should NEVER be accepted.

I would encourage you not to believe Mayweather more than Bob, but rather to distrust both until some solid proof is presented.

You don't trust Bob Arum. You want proof of the contract to prove who was at fault should the fight not happen. That is fair.

As for past negotiations, that's over 5 years worth of arguments that I don't care to delve into. People building stadiums, kid with cancer whose dying wish is denied because of vacations, people afraid of needles, Ross Grenburgs, Jerry Jones, cuts need to heal, jail time, Pacquiao has no say but Floyd calls him anyway with offers, etc etc.

I'm pretty much done and stand by opinion that in this round of negotiations, it's simply much easier to believe the guy who will get paid more to do less than what he is used to.

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Floyd has been firm in his account for 5 yrs , dont mean sht , at the moment Floyd hasnt made a exclusive interview the only word was on a very light and fluffy chat show , not anywhere has Floyd said anything other than he wants this fight so I dont get what your on about , Floyd has never been public during a negotiation while Arum is a media whore .

As Ive said , why would the Network head honchos be grinding out a deal if Floyd is not on board , why is Moonves stating to Roach he has Mayweather , if Moonves didnt have Floyd why is he meeting with HBOs Ceo to get a deal .

The only one involved with any part of the negotiation saying Floyd is not on is Arum .

How long did we listen to Oscar with Canelo , we have agreed to everything we are ready our side is done , Cotto comes out and says BS they agreed to everything the money still was being negotiated , promoters talk BS .

Why are you not doing like you did with Manny? You were fuming and impatient until Manny and Arum said that they have agreed.

Sorry but everyone is being positive except for Floyd and Ariza. Floyd is still talking about Manny's PPV numbers and so on. Ariza is talking negatively and Floyd is agreeing to what Ariza spewed.

I think you should be getting on board like you did with Manny ...... Come on, you can do it just say:
"Floyd sign the damn contract" - Reloaded

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Why are you not doing like you did with Manny? You were fuming and impatient until Manny and Arum said that they have agreed.

Sorry but everyone is being positive except for Floyd and Ariza. Floyd is still talking about Manny's PPV numbers and so on. Ariza is talking negatively and Floyd is agreeing to what Ariza spewed.

I think you should be getting on board like you did with Manny ...... Come on, you can do it just say:
"Floyd sign the damn contract" - Reloaded

Why are you so willing to believe Floyd doesnt want the fight , not once have you said , eh you know what I dont know why Moonves and HBO are still trying to grind out a deal , or hey l dont know why the Lawyers are now going over papers .

Its like Ive always said all you wanna do is hate on Floyd , you will focus on out of context chit chat and ignore the moves of the power players , why is that ?

[ADP02]

Why are you so willing to believe Floyd doesnt want the fight , not once have you said , eh you know what I dont know why Moonves and HBO are still trying to grind out a deal , or hey l dont know why the Lawyers are now going over papers .

Its like Ive always said all you wanna do is hate on Floyd , you will focus on out of context chit chat and ignore the moves of the power players , why is that ?

Was Floyd being taken out of context? How about when he agreed to Ariza's rant? "Thanks for setting the record straight Ariza" - Floyd. NO and NO!

I'm patiently waiting but right now the only thing that I have heard is one side saying that they agreed and the other side (Floyd/Ariza) complaining.

Be honest, you had less to go on and you were complaining and complaining that Manny/Arum had to come out and say that they have agreed. Now that the tables have turned, I read that you are taking a different stance. Why? Because its Floyd's turn to say that he has to agree.

All Floyd had to do when he was being interviewed is say that he is happy that Manny/Arum agreed and that I, Floyd, am in agreement too .... all that is left is for the Networks to agree or whatever.........

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Bob and Pac said they agree to all of Floyds terms.

Floyd havent said he agreed yet. All he keep saying is Pac ppv are low and Bob is being difficult and blah blah.

Why havent floyd come out and say Bob and Pac didnt agree to his terms yet? If Bob is lying.

Floyd and his team have not once denied Bob and Pac claims yet..Why?