Pacman didn't knock them out and neither did anybody else

[Tony Trick-Pony]

I have noticed that a big knock on Pacquiao lately is that he has not scored a knockout in a while. Actually not since 2009. I agree. Where are the knockouts?

However, let's look at his opponents since 2009: Clottey, Margarito, Mosely, Marquez(twice), Bradley(twice), Rios and Algieri.

Out of seven, only Margarito has ever been stopped- against Mosely who was a big hitter at welterweight with a great knockout ratio his entire career- and against Cotto due to swollen eyes in a 46-fight career. The Cotto stoppage came AFTER Pacquiao caved his face in in there fight of course.

Other than that, none of these other fighters have ever been stopped. Bradley took huge bombs from Provodnikov who we all know punches like a bulldozer. Rios has taken plenty of punishment from Alvarado but never got stopped. Clottey has never even been in trouble that I know of. Moseley wanted to quit after eight rounds with the Pacman. Algieri got off the canvas twice against Provodnikov and Pacman put him down SIX times.

I know Pacquiao no longer looks invincible, but come on. No one knocks these guys out. Maybe if we would have fought a Khan or a Berto or an Ortiz in there instead of the iron chins he has been fighting, he most likely would have had a better KO run. Plus, he put Marquez down a total of 5 times in 4 fights.

Pacquiao's power is fine in my opinion. The higher a guy moves up in weight, the harder it gets. If he was a natural welterweight, I think even the iron chins would have been doomed.

[jas]

Exactly......

And some of those guys went into survival mode

[Rath]

I have noticed that a big knock on Pacquiao lately is that he has not scored a knockout in a while. Actually not since 2009. I agree. Where are the knockouts?

However, let's look at his opponents since 2009: Clottey, Margarito, Mosely, Marquez(twice), Bradley(twice), Rios and Algieri.

Out of seven, only Margarito has ever been stopped- against Mosely who was a big hitter at welterweight with a great knockout ratio his entire career- and against Cotto due to swollen eyes in a 46-fight career. The Cotto stoppage came AFTER Pacquiao caved his face in in there fight of course.

Other than that, none of these other fighters have ever been stopped. Bradley took huge bombs from Provodnikov who we all know punches like a bulldozer. Rios has taken plenty of punishment from Alvarado but never got stopped. Clottey has never even been in trouble that I know of. Moseley wanted to quit after eight rounds with the Pacman. Algieri got off the canvas twice against Provodnikov and Pacman put him down SIX times.

I know Pacquiao no longer looks invincible, but come on. No one knocks these guys out. Maybe if we would have fought a Khan or a Berto or an Ortiz in there instead of the iron chins he has been fighting, he most likely would have had a better KO run. Plus, he put Marquez down a total of 5 times in 4 fights.

Pacquiao's power is fine in my opinion. The higher a guy moves up in weight, the harder it gets. If he was a natural welterweight, I think even the iron chins would have been doomed.

But but but he is on PEDs, ask the Mayweathers

[PACnPBFsuck]

What's the purpose of this thread, if all the accusations came before the Clottey fight?

[Reloaded]

But but but he is on PEDs, ask the Mayweathers

You have turned into one of the biggest ******s on the site .

Its not about KOs , its about stoppages , he hasnt stopped anybody since the CWs stopped , I never believed he was on PEDs but he could have been I think they knew Floyd would beat him in 2010 and that would kill Arums golden goose , I have believed his great name value WW run was because of the match making and CWs , since that has stopped he has not hurt anybody or looked like stopping anybody and he hasnt fought a legit WW in 5 fights .

Mannys WW run is match making and marketing perfection .

[Weebler I]

What's the purpose of this thread, if all the accusations came before the Clottey fight?

I think the premise is a counter-argument to the "the KOs dried up after he got accused".

[bmud reggin]

You have turned into one of the biggest ******s on the site .

Its not about KOs , its about stoppages , he hasnt stopped anybody since the CWs stopped , I never believed he was on PEDs but he could have been I think they knew Floyd would beat him in 2010 and that would kill Arums golden goose , I have believed his great name value WW run was because of the match making and CWs , since that has stopped he has not hurt anybody or looked like stopping anybody and he hasnt fought a legit WW in 5 fights .

Mannys WW run is match making and marketing perfection .

You have real talent typing that up with Cloyds nuts resting on your chin. Logic and critical thinking always escapes ******s. Pac sold fights with his entertaining style that people want to watch. Nobody gives a **** about his record because HE ALREADY HAD LOSES you phucktard. Cloyd is the cherry picking, paper thin, weak resume having fraud who has to sell himself on his undefeated record.

[Bolopunch68]

You have turned into one of the biggest ******s on the site .

Its not about KOs , its about stoppages , he hasnt stopped anybody since the CWs stopped , I never believed he was on PEDs but he could have been I think they knew Floyd would beat him in 2010 and that would kill Arums golden goose , I have believed his great name value WW run was because of the match making and CWs , since that has stopped he has not hurt anybody or looked like stopping anybody and he hasnt fought a legit WW in 5 fights .

Mannys WW run is match making and marketing perfection .

Same thing can be said about the other guy, don't you think?

[PACnPBFsuck]

I think the premise is a counter-argument to the "the KOs dried up after he got accused".

Let's be real 2007-2008 Mauls any version of Rios.

[Reloaded]

Same thing can be said about the other guy, don't you think?

Floyd fights Canelo Maidana and Manny fights Algieri off a robbery win at JWW , Rios of a loss at JWW and Bradley good fighter but not a WW , Manny has fought 5 JWWS in a row while holding a WW title .

Go through each opponent fight for fight , the conditions of the fight , and the form leading into the fights and the same thing cannot be said about both .

And when they fight each other you will see why right before your eyes .