Has Showtime over taken HBO as the boxing network?

[fightmuseumlv]

Growing up the big fights were on HBO, you had to have HBO as your premium channel. Now the tides have changed, its Showtime that is king of the hill. HBO lived on the rights to show Mike Tyson fights, it built them into a powerhouse. Towards the end of Tyson's career he switched to Showtime and it was never the same. HBO has suffered since they let Mayweather go. My question is....will HBO ever be king of the hill again?

[KnockoutKings]

lol nope. Showtime had a really strong 2013 year, better than HBO. But I think their stacked cards eventually did them in and had a weak 2014, which belonged to HBO.

Showtime will always be #2 because they have less subscribers than HBO

[Grimmer]

Check the viewing figures for 2014. Showtime had how many in the top 20? 2 was it?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

when was the last time Showtime had boxing on? i'm serious...i cant remember

[vman075]

In 2013 Showtime seemed to take control but 2014 HBO was back on top. If Showtime doesn't change the process of buying star vs scrub, HBO will continue to be on top

[Grimmer]

when was the last time Showtime had boxing on? i'm serious...i cant remember

19th Dec.

Stevenson v Sukhotsky.

Week before that they had Khan v Alexander, a Thurman v Bundu and Mares v can't remember his face.

They put on some good cards last year, and a couple of dross ones too.

Not quite the same consistent level of quality we got in 2013

[Public_Enemy]

You might've been able to make this argument after 2013 but Showtime took a major step back last year. They didn't produce many meaningful fights last year and their ratings dipped considerably. There are so many questions that remained unanswered for Showtime in 2015 but it's clear that HBO has the better boxing program at the moment.

Who is going to be the star of Showtime boxing? Mayweather only has a year or two left. Canelo was supposed to be the new star for them but he has taken his talents to HBO. It's unclear who can assume this open position.

Who will actually fight on Showtime? Up until recently, all of the top Golden Boy fighters fought on Showtime. Now the company has lost a large part of their talent and it is unclear where those fighters will head. With the new Haymon deal with NBC, some of the top fighters may be on there. I'm sure Golden Boy and Haymon will still have cards on Showtime but we won't see the stacked cards from 2013.

I still think Showtime is still a good boxing network but they're no longer a challenge to HBO at the moment. It's back to the drawing board for them.

[KillaMane26]

hmmmm...wea was you at 2014?

[Unseen]

I remember Floyd fans saying Showtime took over. However 2014 was dead for boxing in general,but Showtime wasn't great.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

19th Dec.

Stevenson v Sukhotsky.

Week before that they had Khan v Alexander, a Thurman v Bundu and Mares v can't remember his face.

They put on some good cards last year, and a couple of dross ones too.

Not quite the same consistent level of quality we got in 2013

oh yea...the last one i remember was Khan-Alexander